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Nov302010

"Spurs play primitive football and are extremely naive"

We beat Liverpool 2-1, cue 40+ page thread over at Man City forum Bluemoon about Spurs. Started off innocently enough with one of the locals suggesting Spurs are a better team. Which arguably we've proven to be. Perhaps that will change in the course of this season. We'll have to wait and see. The whole billionaire playboy buys a football club scenario is obviously not the same thing as spending untold millions within your own means. Although both methods can be open to criticism - especially if there is a distinct lack of silverware in the trophy cabinet or no tangible progression.

Not to suggest there is anything wrong with supporting your club no matter the transfer philosophy. And if you happen to see a consortium or the uber-rich take over, you're going to be happy. However, grace and class is hardly something you can pay for. And success is never deserved, it's earned.

Because of the manner of their rags to riches story and their massively over paid 'superstar' signings they (granted it's a fraction of their support that frequent Bluemoon so I'm not tainting all City fans with this paintbrush of ridiculousness) seem to think its a given this will equate to success because how dare success not become them if they've spent millions in such a short space of time with the main objective to dominate. There's a couple of them that have been posting on the forum for several years. You'd think they'd appreciate their humble beginnings and respect their competition and have patience in terms of what goes into the fundamental building blocks of success and a winning mentality. But alas no.

Welcome to Madchester. We spent a few hundred million so book that open bus parade.

That's the problem with this type of 'project'. The expectancy is that glory must be a given. It only worked at Chelsea because of one special reason. And arguably Chelsea were already knocking on the door of the United and Arsenal party.

That's my opinion. Bluemoon's opinion of Tottenham?

"They are on steroids. EPL is a joke if they dont do better doping tests"

"Spurs play primitive football and are extremely naive"

"We are leagues ahead of them, they have a couple of players and a lot of luck. They have no depth and should we want to we could buy ANY of their players to weaken them"

The above are some of the more level-headed statements made. Apparently Lennon only scored the winner in the 93rd minute because he had help, possibly from a doctor who gave him magic energy juice, because its nigh impossible to believe he's an athlete and capable of a burst and run onto goal late on. Hate to think how much of the stuff Tevez is drinking. Perhaps Ricky Villa was on the juice too back in 1981.

Would like to think not all City fans are this backwards. Anyone? Answers on a postcard. Granted in my time I was deluded enough to think Johnnie Jackson was a decent player and Adel Taarabt would be the new Glenn Hoddle. But some of the quoted statements sound like it's come from Davspurs demented northern cousin.

I know, I know, why should we even bother with it. It's a minority, much like any forum or blog following. It's a bunch of people sharing their opinions. And yes, we too have similar ilks of nutters on various message boards preaching in the fickle art of knee-jerk. But I hardly think any of them would venture into this David Lynchesque delusional madness.

Throw enough **** at the wall and some of it will stick. City will get there in the end. But it's hardly endearing. This template has worked before although one or two have hardly managed to sustain it. Someone pointed out how Liverpool - one of the richest clubs in the world in terms of history - have struggled to take hold of the domestic bread and butter like they did in the 70's and 80's. Their cycle might have ended but they've endeavoured. It's naive to think anyone can become someone just because of their fat wallet.

Welcome to Fadchester.

Cheeky bid for Walter Mitty any day now.

Reader Comments (159)

Oh dear. You've opened up a clusterfuck. Brace yourselves.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterPLY

Although we didn't win I did take a lot of pleasure in completely outplaying them on the first day of the season. We were better than them last season and we're even more superior this season. Like we sang at the Liverpool fans on Sunday - 'Thursday night Channel 5'
www.youllwinnothingwithyids.com

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterJack

City are small time. And no it's not a minority, most of them think they're a big club because of the money. When they drew 0-0 with us they saw it as some form of achievement.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterWayne Rooneys Ball Bag

Spooky you're going to hardly incite debate with this because most of their fans are exactly like the types you get in that travesty of an online community over at Blue moon. They think they're bigger than Man Utd. That just about sums them up.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterKilljoy

Surely they cant all be that retarded.....can they??

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterEssex_yid

These folks are obviously morons, but I do think City fans have the right to feel aggrieved. I would imagine most of them can't believe their luck to be the richest club in the world and why would they be happy to have spent so much money and still only finish 5th?

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterJack

I believe we will be above Man City this season. Too many new players, too many ego's and a defensive minded manager who loves a defensive midfielder. They are also very dependent upon Tevez.

Was last season luck? No we beat them fair and square. They think they are at utd's level but not yet. Maybe in 5 years if they get a bit of stability.

Chelsea were a top 6 team before they come into Money and then they bulit a team around two english players (Terry and Lampard), along with Jose's Porto buys and his winning mentality.

If anyone compares Man City to Chelsea then it's not a like for like comparison.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaniel

Chelsea were on the up and they sealed the deal with appointing Jose as manager. That allowed them not only to elevate their status with transfers but it gave them a foundation and they've built on it since. City are trying to skip all the pre-work and jump straight to the front of the queue and whilst doing so tell everyone they're the biggest and baddest about. I actually feel sorry for genuine City fans who would preferred something less distasteful. But this modern football and we have to deal with this type of injection of money. Will be interesting to see how they cope post transfer cap.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:15 PM | Unregistered Commenterno name norman

The problem with us (City) since the takeover has been the ridiculous comments (both among the home and away crowd) among some of the 'supporters'. I am not moaning about that, these type of people are part and parcel of being 'in the money'. Away at Wigan a guy sat behind me was moaning that we weren't attacking when Zabba had been sent off and there were only a couple of minutes left... a guy behind me at home to Birmingham this season started booing in the first half - talk about naive!

However, i still think we have the better squad of players. What you don't read in the press and by watching the highlights is how much more coherent and of a unit that we have looked over the last month or so. Like everyone says, it will take time.

Ideally i would like to see City and Spurs make the champions league this season. I think it is a possibility at the very least.

Hopefully England will appoint Redknapp as England manager sooner rather than later so i can get to quite liking Spurs again.

Peace

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterRobbo

To be fair I have a mate who is a city fan and he has his feet firmly on the ground, much like some of us readers/bloggers here at DML. So there is comfort in knowing at least one of them is sane. But like you say every team has its deluded populace, its just some teams have a larger one than others.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterSheffSpur

City have made progression much like we've done and the pressure is on them from all side to do well. Nobody is seriously expecting Spurs to win the title. Don't care what Harry says. We're nowhere being consistent enough and still lack one or two world class players. The media, the owners and the fans all expect to win the title and that seems to be their objective. They couldn't care less about the Cups. Thats a massive ask of anyone especially a club that's gone from midtable to prioritising the league and top spot.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterAuthor of Comment

Manchester City have simply spent a similar amount of cash as other teams around them (eg. Tottenham) just in a shorter space of time. In so doing they've caught up at the same rate. So the top 5 or 6 teams bar Bolton are on a fairly level playing field, and all have the right to expect some form of success. When you have a good squad you should expect a return.

Lets see who can do that.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterDanny

Robbo - we have fans at White Hart Lane who are just as silly expecting grand things just because of what we managed to do last season but forgetting that it wont happen again unless the team perform and the fans get behind them without the illogical demand. It's embarrassing. We (Spurs) should remember it wasn't long ago we jumped out of one transitional season into another. Reality is hardly grasped by this minority.

I just find Bluemoon to be a melting pot of the extreme. Much like Arsemania is jam packed full of little tarquins.

The Spurs forums I'd like to slate, I can't, because they're got closed membership so I have no idea what goes on in them any more. Elite bastards.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM | Registered Commenterspooky

I spent a good hour this morning on and off reading all that. Admittedly I gave up on about page 30 but it was quite funny.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:23 PM | Unregistered Commenterdrwinston001

I think I've mentioned before that my Dad is a Man City fan. He's humble enough and patient for success. Then again, he doesn't post on fan forums. I've been to watch city in the 3rd division when they were god awful and their fans were great. They are a big club with a (distant) proud history. They should act with a bit more of that grace. Just like we did when we were awful for most of the 90s.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterSpanish Spur

The matter of FACT is, we beat them at their ground to seal Champions League. We played them out of our stadium and back up the motorway in the first game of this season. I do not know how they dare say we have no depth when we have one of the best, if not THE best squads in the league. City are one trick ponies and if you take Tevez out of their team they look like relegation candidates not championship candidates. That team has already started to implode with Johnson and Ballotelli both wanting to leave, Yaya Toure never wanting to come to you in the first place and who can blame him, he was playing for the true team of Europe in Barcelona (you will never be as good as them) . What will happen when the new UEFA rules kick in with finances of a club? All I have said is FACT so lay into me all you want and even if you do achieve top 4 you will not get the plaudits we did or would if we did it again. COYS!

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterLedleys Good Knee

Love the fact that we are doing it the right way, slowly building the squad and the test is in January if we buy for the sake of it and get more squad players or if we go and get a few quality players. City are trying to get overnight sucess and it's just not going to happen and they are now left with a bunch of overpaid average players like Bridge that they will struggle to get off their books!! and in their eyes we are rubbish BUT they are too scared to sell their players to us???? Ignore the new money and keep improving them Arry

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterFolkestone Yid

I loved it last season after we beat them to secure Champions League football. Bluemoon was *covered* in Pringle adverts featuring Peter Crouch's face. :D

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterAaron

This is simple... City are not a bigger club that Spurs.. History will show that! However with the money they now have it is inevitable that they will become contenders for the league.. Maybe not this season but soon. Spurs have to just carry on what they have been doing for years - building a solid team that want to play for the club. The problem City will have or already having is hanging onto players.. They sell Manu Adebayor and Balotelli then realistically who would want to sign for them if they think this is what will happen within the first year!
City will do well this season and the next but how long can they maintain these players and wages.. Surely the powers that be at City will get bored of coming behind Utd Chelsea Arse and probably Spurs and sell up!

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterSid

Danny - I think its the stigma of the project that irks other fans. Why are all these players signing for City? It's because of the money and what that money brings (hype, new manager, long term plans etc). In other words - do they sign because of the ambition or the quick fix?

It's different to a club spending within their means.

Chelsea had built up their stature because of what came before the Russian bought them, but when he did purchase them that practically guaranteed success because...of the money.

Blackburn is the quintessential example. Be it they hardly signed superstars.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM | Registered Commenterspooky

Spooky, you ever so subtly hint we should be worried about them and it would be foolish not to. They are the main threat to last seasons top four finishers.

If it matters we have the better team. They have the better individuals. If they gel we're in trouble. So are the others up there.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Machine

I have to admit I do think we can be naive at times and our first half performances at the Arse and on Sunday did suggest that. At the moment we are winning games because of the brilliant individula skill of some of our players and not becasue of a genuine quality team display. We still lump the ball up to 2MP far too much and struggle to keep possession for long spells. Without Modric bale and Gallas in recent weeks we would have struggled to come away form our games with any points. Of course we are capable of great team performances but we don't do that often enough. Liverpool played us of the aprk on Sunday in the first half and thatw as becasue of their quick mocvement of the ball through midfield with some lovely short passing and keeping possesion. We need to look at the way we play and tighten up our possesion play and start passing the ball to each other and not give it away so bloody often. Yes we are exciting at times and would not want to change that but we are also very frustrating to watch also and that needs to be addressed if we are really to push on to be a contender for the top 4 on a regular basis. Perhaps I should stop wearing short skirts or start wearing knickers as I may be distracting our boys when they attack the Paxton. Are'nt I a naughty girly. XX HH

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterHorny Helen

I'm a genuine City fan. We have more than our fair share of twats. But I'm hardly going to turn down all the money. Considering our recent history we have yo yo up and down the leagues and this is just another chapter in a crazy journey. It will end in tears that I'm certain of. So excuse me whilst I get drunk and enjoy every second.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterDenis Laws Back Heel

It's the old 'Loadsamoney' syndrome. We're an extremely rich club, therefore we're entitled to win everything; buy everybody; and generally throw our weight around. We also have large penises and big breasts. Often on the same person.

What's that old saying about 'once in a blue moon' ? 'Once' is about how often ManC can look forward to winning anything over the next few seasons. And even that may be an over-estimate.

No heart. No soul. No class.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterOldSpur

Helen, naive yes. Primitive? I think the later is a backhanded compliment. I like it.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterWest Stand Bagel

With the comments left above by Spurs fans, is there ever any real wonder why you Spur fans get so much stick.

Killjoy: classic case of pot and kettle there chap and you really need to learn how to understand people in general better.

City fans do not think we are bigger than United at all what so ever, but what we do think based on Fact and history is that we are the true club of Manchester. What does that get us exactly?, well not much but enough to know our existance as the club and true representative of Manchester means more to us than a trophy cabinet.

It is not City fans who have a superiority conplex, it is Spurs fans that think they are superior. thinking your more superior than Arsenal FC to name but one.

On an honest note from a human being capable of actually accepting fact for fact and history for history instead of always being so bias.

Spurs are at present looking more potent when attacking but are weak as hell defending with no world class defenders.

City on the other hand are more defensive but equally as dangerous in attack with the money to buy anyone inclding world class players.

Time always tells the truth and there is no doubt who is in a stronger position right now, the league table does not lie and what it says right now is.

Spurs are hanging onto the tail of City, will they be able to keep up or will they continue to punch above their weight?.

One thing is for sure, the january transfer window will decide whether a Champions League spot evades Spurs or not along with whether any of the current top four dip in form to a point of actually making a negative impact.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterCiTyBlUe

I know we spend within our means but some of us have been guilty of expecting grand things because we've spent a ton of money. Although again its a minority of us who suffer from delusions. Much like its been pointed out already. Most clubs have giddy/idiotic/blinkered fans.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterJep

City are a strange old bunch. Its like a tramp finding a grand. Look at what they've shelled their millions on. For every Tevez there are 3 Barrys, Lescotts and Milners. They keep signing expensive players who are only very slightly better than the ones they replace. And when they stumble across a gem, for example a Johnson or a Richards, they have no idea how to get the best from them.

That said it would be stupid to write them off. Tevez is a truly great player - the most dangerous forward in the PL this season in my opinion. Yaya Toure will get better as will Silva. But I can see why Mancini is defensive - simply because they have so many average defenders. With the best will in the world, Toure, Lescott, Zabaletta, Bridge etc are not the stuff of title winning dreams (and look at the cost of that little lot!). So Mancini keeps it tight, hopes for some magic from Tevez and Silva, and often gets it. But then the fans moan about being boring. Its a really tough job for Mancini.

With all that money, City have missed some obvious tricks. I wonder if they ONLY go for expensive players? Van der Vaart was made for that team, and Gallas would have been an outstanding CB for them. But they didnt show any interest, they just obsessively persued the signing of Milner. The same thing happened the year before with Lescott. I think they need an Arnessen - someone really well connected who will bring in the good value signings, rather than let a Mark Hughes get carried away with players like Lescot and Santa Cruz. When they work that out, if they keep spending (personally I doubt they will - these owners will get bored), they'll be unstoppable. Chelsea were, after all.

So I just worked something out while writing this. You heard it here first - Arnessen will be going to Man City.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterPaul F

They have a thread up now asking, 'How far are we from Barcelona?' Just thought I'd share...

Also, they have a mod named De NIro who is the complete retrograde of everything a football fan should be and stands for. Some of his comments on the Spurs thread were deluded, some were rude and most were aggressive.

However, he saved his best for the Barca thread, he genuinely believes City are close to them!

I hate myself for trawling their site...

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterAuroRaman

Spurs fans getting stick? You need to take a look at that Bluemoon forum.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterKilljoy

the change of fortune ar Man C .makes anyone somewhat punch drunk in their views..remember thay have endured Man u..success for the entire EPL start etc.............its a great time to be a spurs fan as all the comeback wins and style of play ..does the talking......and rightly pisses the mancs ...livpool... ars.... etc ........they cant handle the change....at spurs.....

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM | Unregistered Commenterbilliospur

Sorry to any City fans that are reading this, but I have a small comment for us Spurs fans on here.

If you had these untold billions and had actually spent the type of money that City have done so far, would you have bought that particular squad of players? It has seemed to me from the outside that it has been a rather scattergun approach, with other agendas than just the correct players or players that fit with a long (short?) term target in mind. Of course I'm probably wrong. I also think that football should be entertainment.

I honestly didn't really have any opinion of City before all this happened, however I do think that the whole way that the PL is now being further distorted is quite sad. I'm afraid this is tainting their club and the fans as far as I see it - most want them to fail. When then you get comments such as these by certain fans then I find them quite obnoxious. Not a good legacy I guess.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM | Unregistered Commenterhoopspur

I have to say that I have always had a soft spot for Citeh and their fans. In many ways they are a Manchester equivilant to us; historic club trading on former glories, living in the shadow of their more illustrioous neighbour for decades, a great and loyal support and now stepping up several levels.

I suspect the majority of Citeh fans are as sensible as our (for what that's worth) but sadly the advent of the petro-dollars has brought to light the same type of "fan" who were attracted to Chelsea after Abramovic's investment in the club.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:39 PM | Unregistered Commenterspurs61

another Spurs fan shows exactly why hardly anyone likes Spurs fans.

Oldspur: It's the old 'Loadsamoney' syndrome. We're an extremely rich club, therefore we're entitled to win everything; buy everybody; and generally throw our weight around.

I found it shocking when I was reunited with one of my old best mates from school, avid Spurs fan he was and is and best mates to a point where we were around eachothers houses everyday playing subuteo.

Totally different person today though, the arrogance was astounding to a point where he actually came to me and said he deserved see his club in the Champions League more than I deserved to see City in it.

I would never think in such a way about any of my friends past or present, I was utterly shocked and thought to myself 'would you deprive an starving african child of a biscuit and glass of water.

You judge all city fans based of one message board, now that takes a whole bunch of pathetic hypocrites to achieve.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterCiTyBlUe

CityBlue - you make fair points, but dont forget 2 things. Firstly Spurs are pretty much neck and neck with City despite an injury crisis that has lasted the whole season. For all City's spending, tell me who they would play as their 4th and 5 CB pairing (we have had no King, Dawson or Woodgate for the season, and now have no Kaboul), how many goals they'd have scored without their main striker (Defoe / Tevez), how solid they'd be without their lynchpin midfielder (Huddlestone / Toure)? And on top of that having played in the Champions League. You seem like a sensible guy so I think you'll be honest enough to say the answer would be that City would not be doing as well as they are now. Spurs have all those players to come back (ok, you can argue about Woodgate and King). An injury crisis cannot last a season. And the second point is, as you told us, te table doesnt lie. Over the 38 games last season Spurs finished above City. And over the last 38 games played, Spurs are 8 points ahead of City

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterPaul F

most citeh fans i know still remain level headed and, when compared to the scousers, gooners and chavs (to be joined by yanited fans if/when they slip?? i'm not sure) are far nearer to my perception of us as fans than the sky 4, that said the ignorant will follow the gold and as such their numptys will grow exponentially. It seems to be the price of success and is on a deeper level (?really?) a reflection on the direction our society is heading (slap me quickly). That said i really don't spend any time trawling the blogosphere of others because the ignorant few that each club no doubt have seem to want to post on any blog that i read (does that make the ignorant many??) and , as evidenced by postings on Fox's amuse bouche yesterday it winds me up.

I should probably do more research but I honestly believe we spurs fans are if you can excuse the occasional bouts of fickleness pretty much up there in terms of respect for the game, respect for others and humble realism. More like a div 2 mentality than the prawn sandwich mofo's and knuckledraggers that have followed the glory for the last 20 years. It would be interesting to know if Villa/Everton/??/?? fans would view themselves in the same way and what their view of us would be.

A case in point would be the comment that your referenced fans favourite Davspurs (who is a northern version of himself btw!!) made yesterday.....it made perfect sense (i nearly shit, sorry Dav but...). If even our most vocal, loyal, outlandish followers can exhibit moments of tolkienesque clarity (tm ouji!) then surely that backs up my point?? Or do I wear lilywhite specs??

Like everything in life my biggest hope will also carry with it my biggest fear, i genuinely (for the first time ever in 30 years) believe that we can bring home the bacon. It may not happen but what i can see is that our star is rising whilst all around others are falling. Yanited + debt, Scouse + debt, Goons + wenger, Chavs + russian madness/ageing squad. There is a real potential, if the moons align (how often do they) that we could have a very healthy few years coming up.....imagine what that will feel like, just for a minute.....ah but i digress.....what price success?......our very own pet morons, frothing at the mouth, slagging off anyone who dares beat us! I dunno, maybe they are there already but i fear a proliferation :$$$$$ And don't get me wrong, I will put up with them for that success but........i love the way we do everything, on and off the pitch, the swagger, the rolls of the eyes, the head in hands, the laughter and the grimaces, they are forever my Tottenham and being a perfectionist i don't ever want that tainted by the kind of gimp who makes statements such as the steroid one above or that true red wazack from yesterday......I know, i know.......If wishes were horses eh??? Ah well, I guess that as long as they stay of fhere, i can enjoy my very own bubblesphere of sanity :))))

Keep up the good work one and all !! COYS

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM | Unregistered Commenterdevon yid

City are not the team they were in the first game of the season. Looking much better now, though still need someone like Tevez out there to make them work for it. And still too defensive minded to be champions, but then they are just aiming for top 4 this season anyway.

My hope is that they will start in-fighting in the new year. All those squad members who aren't getting games getting annoyed, but being paid too much to be able to transfer away, will be causing problems in training.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterSpang

whoa, hang on a minute. the fucktard ratio is high on Bluemoon i admit but dont go tarring us all, or even the majority, with that brush.
i seem to remember frequenting several open forum football debate sites a few years ago at the start of Jols last season, and the start of Ramos first full season, about how spurs were gonna steamroller their way into the CL places with their "best coach in europe" , "Englands No1" and "the best teenager IN THE WORLD" and squash an army of poor gooners whoes decrepid old squad wasnt going to withstand the spurs charge.
admittedly, even though you are doing a lot better with Harry in charge, that brash cockiness seems to have given way to cautious optimism

now in our defence, most of the "angry" city posting comes in the face of a barrage of sesasionalised, sterotype induced, hypocratic, and down right moronic media purile. and i, along with most other blues, will defend the club against unfair and incorrect reporting
we are not stupid enough to think we are "bigger than utd", anyone who suggests we do is a moron. what we do know, is that there is a whole lot more to the club than is reported in the mainstream press, and whilst impatience will creep in at times we all know the long term intentions are good.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterBringBackBananas

Paul F, I would have to agree that without Kompany, K Toure and Dejong injured City would not break the top four because I do not rate, Bridge, Richards, or Lescott. They will be replaced soon enough which will solve that problem.

Never have I ever said we were better than Spurs but one thing is for sure, Spurs are no better than City either for that matter.

Most City fans have their feet on the ground but you condemn us all just because of one message board.

I condemn all the Spurs fans I see slagging us City fans off for being hypocrites, truth is I see more Spurs bad apples of recent than I do City bad apples. For the record I am talking outside of message boards.


I don't know where this attack on City fans has come from but its pathetic at best, I never had a problem with spurs or their fans up until the last few years, I have seen nothing but spurs fans slagging us off left right and center in the streets and across the web.

Shocking and strangely enough it only really kicked off when City came into a bit of extra cash with Thaksin.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterCiTyBlUe

Who cares? They (Citeh) are a side in transition at this moment in time. We have passed the transition stage, have the same set of young players from 3-5 years ago who are now settled into first rteam roles and have proven last season that we were better. This season, the aim of the game should be consolidation of success, without upsetting the apple cart, hence one high profile buy (luck with VdV) and one decent punt on the future (Sandro). Citeh can't consolidate yet as they still have a relatively unsettled squad of big star names all jostling for a shot at the big time. Then their big time charlies eg. Adebayour, will get in a huff, squad morale drops, their play goes into freefall, and they are back to square one. By the time their squad is settled, (just think back to the early nineties Chelsea under Vialli, then Ranieri) they too will have a relatively settled squad, if, and only if, their board does not think they are heading Real Madrid and fire each manager every season. Citeh have no real pedigree, so expectation form within and without is different to Madrid. Chelsea had little pedigree as well, until Gullit, then Hoddle briefly, but it took Vialli to really push them, and Ranieri to take them within a whisker's. Of course, they were then sold to the Russian, and the rest is history. Citeh fans haven't had the same level of momentum in building up. They want it all now. It won't hapen, not for a while.
Whereas we, the Spurs, despite our relatively meagre means, have a chance of really pushing th eboat out. Even if/ when Redknapp leaves, I don't see Levy frantically looking for someone without the necessary pedigree to push us on to the promised land. He'll see how they managed things at Chelsea, and, he's no one's mug. That's one smart cookie. I think we should all be grateful that there is someone who is clever, understands success, understands the building of success and is a fan in charge.
When/ If ENIC sell up, it will at the same stage as Ken Bates, when he saw he could not take Chelsea any further with in his means, realising it would require mega bucks to push on. Then he sold to the Russian. I think ENIC could finance things for a time to come, but they are businessmen. They will sell. Why are we getting a shiny new ground? For our benefit? Pah!
So, in conclusion to my lengthy diatribe, Spurs 1- 0 Citeh.....for the time being.

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterOld Skool

@CityBlue

Are you aware you are accusing us of tainting all city fans with the same brush, yet making comments that suggest you are doing exactly the same to our club's supporters??

And yes, you DO have the money to buy world-class players (how classy to remind us of that fact). But be very honest with yourself. How many truly world-class players would actually want to come to CIty? (please don't list anyone other than Tevez in your squad. He is your one world-class player)

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterAuroRaman

City are better now than the first day of the season BUT, they will still struggle to achieve their high expectations due to 2 things: 1) Mancini being cautious 2) Certain superstar players "Balotelli", "Silva" etc will be favoured whether they play well or not. Thus keeping effective players out of the team. City however do have a good chance of finishing above us because: 1) They get results even when playing poorly. 2) We have a major distraction in the CL. Yes City have Europa, but they can play whole second string in that and be ok. You can't in the CL

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterTonyRich

Spooky thanks for not saying it sounds like Davspurs when using your eulogy on drugs you so kindly made accountable to my my cousin therumourman.. I have spoken to him on the subject of Spurs and drugs and he assures me Spurs 0 Wigan 1 proves if they are on them they don,t work .Lennon at the moment is only at 85 percent of his full and Blistering form because of groin and Hernia problems. This lad has bean playing and terrorising teams since he burst on the scene aged 17. On the other hand Teves who had not scored for 16 games for relegated West Ham at the time has not stopped running since even his Hair has lost weight and another thing Hudds would look like Fellani if we where on shite Energey try Blackpool and Bolton you may get nearer the truth.. . Spurs have had Hudds Dawson Lennon Bale since they where kids City sold there youth Sturidge ireland if things ripen to quick they can taste bitter ours are tasting sweet with every passing year its bean worth the wait. Yours forever Davspurs cousin of the infamous Therrumourman

Nov 30, 2010 at 1:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterDavspurs

Can you imagine if members of Bluemoon had babies with the members of Arsemania?

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterEd

AuroRaman,

I did not ever tarnish all spurs fans with the same brush at all what so ever, I just merely pointed out that many more than less that I have had the opportunity to meet or speak with. Have done their fellow fans no favours.

The same could be said for some City fans but lets face a fact here.

You spurs fans never saw us as a threat or as a rival until thaksin purchased our club, since then City fans have had to put up with loud mouth Spurs fans (not to mention from other clubs) but why.

I think it is pure envy or jealousy or both at being in a stronger financial position, this is not a windup as its just the way it looks to me.

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterCiTyBlUe

Love you Davspurs.

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterAuthor of Comment

would the real davspurs please stand up.....

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:08 PM | Unregistered Commenterdevon yid

@ed......i imagine they'd all run round like blue arsed flies !!

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM | Unregistered Commenterdevon yid

Those select comments reek of desperation, frustration and bitterness so they're best avoided.They aren't all like that. Well I know of one who isnt anyway. He's a season ticket holder at Eastlands and a good friend of mine. He's as negative and pessimistic as all the best Spurs fans are. Even with all the vast quantities of cash they have he still thinks they're no good! He knows sooner or later something good will come and he has been to the third tier of English football with them and back again so he's as realistic as they come. He's hanging on in there and enjoying the ride. just like we are at the Lane. God knows where our journey is taking us.

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:13 PM | Unregistered Commenteradtheyid

actually the more teams change the so called top four the better is the EL..as they lose key games......i know some Man C fans ....who in their loss of our champions league quali last year (in Sports bar) were pissed off but ok in defeat with respect for Redknapp......they have a similar passion to spurs fans ... dont forget the villa Fa Cup final holds a lot of great memories for both clubs.......

Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterbilliospur

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