Won't someone please think of the children?
Thursday, December 3, 2009 at 12:27AM Anyone watch the Carling Cup coverage (Sky Sports) between City and the foetus collective? Platt (commentating), bless him, did his utmost to protect the lickle children running around in diapers (outside the comfort of their home play-den) against the unfair giant uber-experienced strong old old men of Manchester City, including the rather ancient Tevez and his zimmer frame. When they made it 3-0 Platt started to bleat on about how City were always going to win if they took the initiative because, in essence, they had enough to defeat a team of kids. Although Arsenal did play pretty football in the first half. Which is a commodity valued higher than silverware these days. You don't win anything with kids. Well, not with this lot. Eleven kids. Well, actually a team that included four kids and a collection of first team players. That's four kids. Some of which have Champions League experience. But still, kids. It's almost half the starting line-up okay, so give it a rest! It was practically an academy side, ffs. Ok?
Never quite understood how this is meant to work though. Is it okay for kids to play and defeat lesser sides and be proclaimed brilliant/genius/amazing but if they happen to lose against stronger opposition, it's expected and the opposition have sort of indirectly cheated by including 'experienced' players? Doesn't it mean they're just decent young players who are not quite ready for proper football just yet? Seems Wenger continues to embrace this perpetual youth dynasty to ready them for the future by playing them in the CC, yet still throws his toys out the pram when they get dicked. Isn't that part of the learning curve then? And if so, why be so utterly classless in defeat? In addition, if they're that good, why mixed up the line-up with more experienced players? Why not just play a fully strength side and, I don't know, have a day out at Wembley, win something perhaps. It's still a cup. No matter how devalued and insignificant it appears to have become to the 'big clubs'.
No sign either of the Wilshire super-show (I was advised to tune in by a gooner mate and droll) we get when they play < insert Championship team here > at home? Where? Where was it? Ah, don't matter. Just fooling around. There's always next season. When the kids grow up they'll be world beaters. For sure. When they grow up. Them and Peter Pan. Although Wilshire is already showing sublime mannerisms of a textbook Arsenal player, what with the mouthing off and moaning and dirty play.
Then we witness Wenger (he's free to shake hands with whoever he wants) disappearing down the tunnel ignoring a waving Mark Hughes. And why should he even bother hanging around anyway? How very dare City score three goals past his team. Outrageous. But again, understandable. Because City have more experience (key word that). Which equates to fielding a more structured effective balanced side for the occasion. Which helps win games. A lesson we harshly learnt last night when our kids (bite me - our mixture of first teamers and over-rated fringe players) lost to Utd's kids + Gary Neville. Point being, if you select a side that has no balance or strength then don't be so fucking shocked to lose.
Another golden moment in the coverage of the game was when Platt re-wrote history before our very eyes/ears. Arsenal - according to him - lost to Burnley in the semi-final of the Carling Cup last season. Honestly, they did, according to Platt. Season before, they beat Spurs 5-1 at White Hart Lane. Best-selling dvd down at the Emirates that. And people say I'm a melter for suggesting there's an ongoing conspiracy, and yet the vast majority of 'pundits' continue to gag on Top 4 meat. By the way: 3 defeats in a row, scored 0 conceded 7 (domestic games, for the pedants amongst you). Ask Platt and no doubt he'll confirm it's Barcelona's recent La Liga record.
Elsewhere, Robbo saves two pens to end Chelsea's run. It's really nice that these other London clubs are showing solidarity by crashing out the cup too leaving us not so lonely, scratching our heads with regret and bitterness.
Reader Comments (51)
Also Wenger threw all his toys outta his pram and wouldn't shake Hughes's hand afterwards. Poor show Arsene.
FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS NOW I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT WENGER IS LOSING THE PLOT, OK TRY AND PROTECT YOUR PLAYERS.BUT SOMETIME WHEN YOU TRY AND DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE YOU JUST END UP LOOKING A COMPLETE THICK PRICK, TO THE POINT EVEN YOUR OWN PLAYERS MUST... ON OCCASION, THINK YOUR A WANKER.
THERE IS A STEADY AND REASSURING DECLINE GOING ON AT THE EMERIODS AND BINGO BRAIN IS OVERSEEING IT.
"I was advised to tune in by a gooner mate and droll"
Doubt you were mate. Shitty thesis, shitty writing. Got some moaning about Sky in there though, so jobzaguddun innit!
This 'Arsenal kids' rubbish has even made its way to the Australian media. Was listening to talkback radio one morning here in Queensland (and yes, they arent that smart up here and I acknowledge that) and they harped on about this crap from a Liverpool v Arsenal game. So I wrote an email asking for the pundit to explain his rationale. His reply was as follows:
"You say that we are wrong to say that they are youngsters. When we journalists and broadcasters talk about a "Young Team or Youngsters" we are not just talking about their age. We are also talking about their experience in the game at a senior level."
Fucking Rubbish, nuff said!
Media too lazy to come up with anything besides stereotypes and cliches shocker. City seem to be doing rather well against the Arse these days, eh?
I hope Blackburn wins it, I'd love to see Robbo lift the cup again.
Players like Ramsey can't be called youngsters. Obviously he's young, but he's played an FA cup final, and quite a few champions league matches and also a fair few Wales Caps. Thats more than most of our team, including King. I'd class our youngsters as people like Bostock, Obika, Mason etc. And since when are Song, Eboue, Rosicky or Silvestre youngsters? And Traore played a whole season for Pompey last season, and against Chelsea on the weekend. Going on that the Arsenal team are youngsters, I'm looking to see our youngsters such as Bale (despite being an international and having 3 seasons of Prem football, still a youngster), Bassong - 23 and only had one previous season in the Premiership. As Rosicky is a youngster, with only 68 International Caps to his name, I think that makes our whole squad youngsters? Except Cudicini, he's just about found his trade in football now, and the ever-green Jimmy Walker. But they don't even seem that old, taking into account 32 year old Silvestre is a youngster too! Hopefully our kids with such high potential like Keane, Crouch, Woodgate and King fulfill their potential, then we'll have a top team!
"Players like Ramsey can't be called youngsters."
Are you off your rocker pal? He's 18. That means you can call him a youngster.
Ledley King and "most of [your] team" aint played in any FA Cup finals or Champs League matches or whatever cos they play for a club who have done fuck all for years. Simples.
"Media too lazy to come up with anything besides stereotypes and cliches shocker."
He says, after reading another x thousand words of drivel about Sky this, 'orrible Big 4 that.
You lot really are priceless.
PMSL
"I am free to shake whose hand I want. I had no professional courtesy to shake his hand.
"It was not to do with anything about the game. I've nothing more to say on that.
"If we had won the Carling Cup, we would not parade it around saying 'We have won a trophy'.
"To play in the Champions League quarter-finals or an FA Cup semi-final is 10 times more different to winning the Carling Cup."
He's a bitter and disillusioned man who's not going to win a cup again this year. There's obviously increasing pressure for him to BUY established stars, as his policy of playing with 'kids' isn't earning enough cups to appease the money men fighting for the helm of the Woolwich. His increasing public rudeness will turn neutrals, the fa and league cup organisers further against him and his kindergarten.
Ha ha ha.
PMSL? Typical of gooners not to potty-train their kids/nephews/nieces/cousins.
They are a crap!
They are as crap as us. Rejoice!
i really hope wenger stays at Arsenal. God forbid they brought in a manager that started winning things again.
He actually behaves like a 3 year old. really.
4th place or Silverware this season?
I'll name that team in, err, hang on, it's on the tip of my tongue. Villa. No? um, Liverpool, No again? let me think about this one. Oh, City. yep definately City.....
Wenger wont buy established stars because he only likes kids.
Congrats to Robbo!
Actually i think that Whinger will have to but in Jan, and abandon his policy. Especially after Arshavin's 'input' into the matter so publically, and with Van Prickie out for 5 months, he almost has no choice.
What will be interesting to see who he can get who will gel with the team in a short space of time and who can adapt to the EPL (something that for some reaason it is notoriously difficult to do). Especially with Man U on the prowl at the same time.
I'm hoping for Reyes mk II, or another like 'the beast' who turned out to be more like 'the slightly miffed pussy' .
Same old Arsenal every season
Beat average Championship / mid table prem team in the first round and everyone (Arsenal fans, journalists and sky sports pundits) bleat they are the best young players in the country.........
Same again in next round and everyone (Arsenal fans, journalists and sky sports pundits) says their youngsters are best in the world.....
Then they play a decent team who care about winning and get well beaten and go another season without winning the CC or come to think of it anything else for that matter......
IN WENGER I TRUST
@ yid01 - If you substitute the word "young" for "fringe" you could say the exact same about Tottenham but the difference is they were knocked out by a team who actually played a mixture of youth and squad players.
You have to laugh at Spooky's attempt to denounce Arsenal's team when it was only a few entries ago he tried to label the Spurs side put out against Man Utd as "make-shift", despite the fact it featured 8 players who are regular first team players. There is no comparison to that put out by the Gunners. The irony of him moaning about hypocrisy and the media when he is the epitome of it is not lost on me; the cheap whore.
at the end of the day you can't turn around and say 'it was only our kids', if you lose, you lose and thats the managers fault!
You read way too much into these blog posts. Did you ignore my cheap shot at Spurs on purpose to add weight to your denouncement of my article? If you need me to break it down, let me know, because I'm not wasting time on fishing attempts.
You slag.
Love the blinkered views in response to the truth,Gooners even play so called kids in the league according to Jeff Stelling like he proclaimed mid match when they lost out at Sunderland and of course they always play kids in the Carling Cup like they did last night.
They played Fabianski 24 year old ,14 international caps,Eboue 26 years old,25 caps,Silvestre 32 years old,40 caps,Rosicky 29 years old,68 caps,Song 22 years old,15 caps,Vela 20 years old,22 caps,Ramsey 19 on boxing day has 11 caps.Apart from Eastmond,Traore,Fran Merida and Wilshere the rest were internationals.
The talk of kids/fringe and reserves has made the competition sound second rate but the last 12 winners have been Chelsea x3,Man Utd x2,Spurs x2,Liverpool x2,Boro,Blackburn and Leicester.
Their average age last night was 22.36,for Spurs without King,Modric,Kranjcar,Assou-Ekotto,Woodgate,Giovani Dos Santos,Cudicini and O'Hara as options and Crouch,Corluka and Huddlestone on the bench Spurs played a strong side but far from first choice considering 5 or 6 first choices were out and three benched so bar Defoe,Gomes,Palacios and Lennon out of position left wing was that our current first eleven.
The Spurs average age is 25 from Tuesday night,take out Keane,Jenas,Bentley,Bale,Hutton,Bassong,Dawson and replace them with King,Woodgate,Corluka,Modric,Huddlestone,Assou-Ekotto and Crouch and they start instead you get a first eleven average of 23.36 which a whole year older than the kids of Wednesday night that played Man City.
Just goes to show what bollocks is spoken about Arsenal's so called kids of the Carling cup,Spurs first team containing two 29 year olds,two 28 year olds and a 27 year old is still playing in a side with an average age of just over 23.
No blinkered Spurs fans views and Spooky is not being hypocritical at all,those are the facts it's a pity half truths and embelishment's are what Sky love to talk in when referring to league cup teams,esecially good old sporting Arsene Wenger's so called kids.
goonerjake.... how are you? How's it going down there in Woolwich. I hear the rains 'ave come. Must be worrying for you marsh dwellers.
I hate Wenger - he is a total chuff. Mark Hughes should have chased him down and headbutted him!
Spookys underlying message is surely that for all the fanfare and hype, Arsenal are simply not good enough when they attempt to play a mixture of experienced players and youngsters. There is no balance. If he is happy to risk elimination from this Cup, then its a experiment that allows for experience and not all is lost (although you wouldn't say that based on the way he reacts to defeat).
The media are guilty however of exaggeration and Wenger is the master of confidence-building. Arsenal do have some very good talented players. One or two of which are going to be top players. But defeats such as the one against City place victories such as the one against Sheffield Utd in the Cup into perspective.
Chazza, I'm guessing from the banter you know Spooky. So you should know he's self-depreciating when it comes to Tottenham. Our side the other night might not have been make-shift in the strictness sense of the word and it was a side that on paper should have beaten Utd's. Sadly football isn't that obvious. We don't have the luxury of depth. This being another media exaggeration not helped by the likes of Robbie Keane. Our fringe players are either damaged good or completely useless. Look how long it took to win 4 games after Modric got himself injured. We won all 4 prior to that.
I liked it last week when GoonerJackoff disappeared on a sabbatical, hiding under the bridge in the darkness and swamp. He does that often. The fucking girl.
spurs4life, spot on! couldnt say it better myself! goonerjake is 12 tonyblue. he's been hired by Wenger and is currently under his desk polishing his piece! ;-)
Jep
It also reads and writes (sort of) in the dark... does our Goonerjackass. aye, Woolwich is a strange place!
It was funny watching those poor gooner kids getting kicked n barged off the ball. 60% possession or something. Yeh cause they were too scared to go into the danger zone for more kickings. They'll all end up crocks before their mid 20's with permanent injurys which will never heal properly.
27/28 is the prime age for footballers is'nt it ? How many of these kids will last the course ??.
@spurs4life - You have put in a set of players that are older than the side you put out in the Carling Cup yet the average age goes down!? Either you struggle with maths, you struggle with English and have not worded your post properly, or you are talking out of your arse. I would suggest all three.
@Oracle - Yes mate, me and Spooky have a 'fisherman's friend' relationship that goes back over the years. That's why I should know he's liable to posting a mirage of bollocks, wrapped up in shite analogies that don't actually say very much at all. He cannot help but react to me which is exactly why I love him, and would be happy to father to his children.
I think one or two of you are confusing things here. The article is about Arsenal and the media's obsession with their 'kids'. Untouchable when they win, heroic when they lose - because they tire out or get bullied. This isn't meant to be a game of one-upmanship. You can't compare one team with another. Spurs played poorly with a side that couldn't be bothered, with several key players missing. Which DOES make a difference. Arsenal played experienced players and four young chaps, a couple of which have plenty of Premier League experience. I don't know about you but I hardly find it awe-inspiring. Other clubs too have fielded weakened sides and lost. Big fucking boo hoo. Let's not lose sight of the fact that Arsenal being knocked out of anything is fucking hilarious.
I see no Spooky reaction. Just another stalker. Although in terms of discussion, a massive improvement on LooneyJake.
Chazza (West Ham right?). Please go forth and multiply:
Google 'the games gone crazy'. Your insight is required on that blog.
I love you too Chazza
xox
Spurs are in a lose lose situation. Their best players will always be picked up by Utd, much like they pluck players from lesser teams than themselves. Cracking the top 4 is a task that's beyond most outside the current traditional four. But they give it a go even if they stumble most attempts. Arsenal are deluding themselves. Most of these kids never make it, and apart from 2 or 3 I don't expect anything different. Fact of the matter is, 5 years ago none of their star players would consider leaving the club and most would never expect to see that happen. In the present time, its far more likely. It's already happened. Let them gloat and blag to their hearts content. End of (their) days is nearing.
RRD
If we do make top 4 maybe it will be the other way round and MANU well sell us some of their players :)
Sorry Chazza you retareded inbred that you can't grasp a point about a media wankfest becuase your brain is too small to understand my post.
Apart from a slight error typing this part of my post,''The Spurs average age is 25 from Tuesday night,take out Keane,Jenas,Bentley,Bale,Hutton,Bassong,Dawson and replace them with King,Woodgate,Corluka,Modric,Huddlestone,Assou-Ekotto and Crouch and they start instead you get a first eleven average of 23.36 which a whole year older than the kids of Wednesday night that played Man City.
Just goes to show what bollocks is spoken about Arsenal's so called kids of the Carling cup,Spurs first team containing two 29 year olds,two 28 year olds and a 27 year old is still playing in a side with an average age of just over 23''
I missed out a player correct age and it's 25.63 not 23.36 but unlike your amazing observation states four players are younger than the one's starting ahead of them in the CC and other three are older,well spotted it's hard to work out an entire group of older players would put the average age up pity you didn't realise that some were younger.
The two Spurs teams av.age difference is small,my point was the gooner kids the other night had 7 internationals with an age 22 Spurs is just over 25 the same as tuesdays team not much difference when their side is classed as kids.
But your problems with reading and acting like a fucking retard is down to years of your family inbreeding and lack of education.
What are you exactly,Gooner,Chav,retard,inbred,simpleton or abused child with the brain capacity of a dog turd?
Or is it a combination of all 6?
@Killjoy - No sooner than 5 minutes after your post! There is no reason to be jealous of mine and Spooky's relationship. We're both fans of the spit-roast. Yes, I am West Ham. I don't really bother with blogs. I find that my own view is normally right and that is enough for me. :-)
@Spurs4life - My brain understood exactly what you were getting at. The problem was that you were wrong. I would think that a 2 year average age difference is quite a big mistake when that is the crux of your whole argument; don't you? I wouldn't have minded so much if there was some class in your comeback but deary me, it was about as inventive as a Robbie Keane cartwheel. The "brain capacity of a dog turd" yet you can't even spell retarded properly. Good luck in life son. Evidently you'll need it.
Nice one Chazza you understood what I was getting at then contradict yourself by not understanding it as the crux of the argument was the over the top kids theory not an average age that was just the highlighting what little age difference between the sides and 25 instead of 23 is not much difference.
I can spell retarded thanks it was an error when typing fast,you probably use spellcheck and know the word retarded very well having seen it on medical forms and had it explained many times so people know your condition.
West Ham fan is hardly a surprise is it,Spurs hating morons that only dream of finishing above us and claim to be rivals whilst their knuckle dragging antics are still stuck in the days of football firms and sayings like ''we won the world cup'' sums up you deluded inbreds.
Im sorry I offended you it's not easy being a spammer is it,only ambition in life is to finish above spurs and constantly try and put us down to make up for your sad pointless life.
Good luck in life son if your a Essex bingo club follower then suicide must seem like a nice alternative.
Hahahaha
my brain hurts, anyone got a calculator?
I want to find the average number of posts by a gooner prior to seeing his team lose to the number of posts after to see if any poisson distrubution correlation exists.
Rght, time to go the the chippie for two large cod and family sized chips!
@Spurs4life - We are getting worked up here aren't we and once again forming sentences that make little or no sense. You will find that rather than contradict myself I have pointed out that you were basing an argument on statements that were incorrect. Instead of acting the internet warrior and dishing out abuse (while condemning our own "knuckle head element" - maybe you could take a look at yourself?), why don't you just accept that you were wrong, take a deep breath and get ready for your lesson in punctuation tomorrow.
@Spurs4life - We are getting worked up here aren't we and once again forming sentences that make little or no sense. You will find that rather than contradict myself I have pointed out that you were basing an argument on statements that were incorrect. Instead of acting the internet warrior and dishing out abuse (while condemning our own "knuckle head element" - maybe you could take a look at yourself?), why don't you just accept that you were wrong, take a deep breath and get ready for your lesson in punctuation tomorrow.
God you really are a dumb spammer,lesson's in punctuation from a guy that has posted in one long sentence.
The fact my argument was not based around an age average and was part of point highlighting a small age gap between Spurs and Arsenal so called kids says it all,you still don't understand what I was on about.
Never mind loser keep your spelling and punctuation lessons for yourself your not much of an educator are you.
The only internet warrior around here is you,typical spammer looking to rile up Spurs fans because he feels inferior.
Bed time for you now,time to dream of winning the world cup again and finishing above Spurs.
- A full stop or period (.) (sometimes stop, full point, or dot) is the punctuation mark commonly placed at the end of several different types of sentences in English and many other languages.
Wrong. Again.
I have not tried to rile anybody. Sadly that is exactly what you've (take note of that one) tried to do but failed miserably. I came on here to try and engage in a football debate. You kept making statements that were factually incorrect. I pointed them out to you to which you felt the need to abuse me so you could feel better about yourself.
It's a shame that a rival fan cannot enter a footballing discussion without illiterate drop-outs like yourself posting a load of abusive drivel. As I said, good luck in life son. Evidently you'll need it.
LOL at the argument on here. Grammar? Really? How original. It degrades from football into a slanging match about nothing. How about posting your cocks and then we can call it a day.
Wrong. Again.
I have not tried to rile anybody. Sadly that is exactly what you've (take note of that one) tried to do but failed miserably. I came on here to try and engage in a football debate. You kept making statements that were factually incorrect. I pointed them out to you to which you felt the need to abuse me so you could feel better about yourself.
It's a shame that a rival fan cannot enter a footballing discussion without illiterate drop-outs like yourself posting a load of abusive drivel. As I said, good luck in life son. Evidently you'll need it.
Poor deluded spammer again saying the exact opposite of what he claims from a man that started the abuse and got some of his facts wrong,but ignore that because your always correct.
Not much football debate from you and Im doing great in life thanks unlike you the internet school teacher so blind to his own failings and problems.
When you trade your cabbage for a brain and understand what drivel you have been posting and using it for basis of a pointless argument to make yourself superior you might have come up with an opinion worth reading.
Good luck in life Chazzy you certainly need it because your ability to read posts and understand some simple points which you turn into a argument because your feeble mind can't handle others opinions and therefore feel better when you claim to have won some petty argument over the numbers or picked up a spellng mistake through quick typing.
Sure Im just not as smart you spammer,you keep believing it and coming up with your delusional statements like illeterate drop-out,soon you will have 5 gold stars and can start serving Big Macs to the customers.,then you will really being going places.
"I see no Spooky reaction. Just another stalker."
And then the next comment your guru replies. ROFLMFAO
Er that wasn't quite a reaction though was it you deluded mong? You have the touch of the Wengers.
/ended
Chazza, fuck off u west ham mug! go back to ur council flat and go f**k ur sister! Coming on a Spurs blog for no reason trying to teach us how to spell, go try teach ur shit team how to play football instead u muggy little c*nt!
Ok, look. Chazza is a mug, but he's a lovable one. The type that goes fishing. Think JR Hartley on a train platform singing Forever Blowing Bubbles. That's Chazza. I know its tricky business for football fans to see eye to eye on anything, and the banter is what makes it all fun and games, but would be nice to have some constructive discussion on here rather than 'your mum' style slating. All of you: Must try harder.
As for 'Jake' (LOL), let the one trick pony be. He's drowning in his own misguided self-importance because he ain't getting any love where he usually frequents.
give us a little write up on Sandro please Spooks?