Don't take Defoe to the World Cup Fabio...he's evil
Monday, February 22, 2010 at 12:34PM We win. Away. Score three goals, and keep a clean sheet. We do it with a mix of the ugly and the sublime, in the mud, up North. And back down South, one of London's freebie newspapers decides to run the headline that has Jermaine Defoe pencilled in as some type of Dark Sith, waving his light-sabers around with no remorse and unnerving petulance. The Facere is strong with this one. Much like the farce is strong with the Evening Standard and their blatant side-step to say something positive about Spurs. You'll be equally shocked to hear the report of the game has nothing to do with Matthew Norman, unless he's ghost writing for Tom Collomosse.
So, basically our win has had the shine taken off it because Defoe did a norty tackle. Yes, yes, because losing your rag is something that is simply forbidden if you're not Wayne Rooney. Tom poses the question 'How would he react to a sly dig in the ribs or a kick on the ankle' during a World Cup quarter final? Don't fret Tom, Wayne will give him some hints and tips on how to control his temperament, because we all know JD is an animal on the pitch, isn't he just. Week in week out, all the goals he's scored count for nothing because they're blanked out by his suspect attitude in games.
Dry them Tom.
Dashing towards the ball is also apparently more condemning evidence that our top scorer is a liability.
Edgy.
Irritable.
That's our JD according to the ES.
So one bad stupid tackle, and it's deserving of 80% of a match report? Really? Is he like this every week? Does he get sent off regularly due to violent conduct or stupid reactions? Of course he bloody well doesn't.
Absolute bollocks journalism by an absolute melter trying his best to avoid discussing a decent win away when a few thought we'd perhaps stumble and lose more ground.
Tomorrow the Evening Standard is set to publish a piece about how Modric is over-rated because anyone with a mullet in this day and age can not possibly be good at football.
Reader Comments (45)
Dawson has gone daft again in recent games. Needs to play alongside ONE player and one player only rather than being shuffled like an mp3 on an ipod.
And I've posted this in the wrong place. Looks like his daftness is contagious.
Defoe can be a bit thick sometimes much like most players. Agree that match report by the Standard is embarrassing. Could they not have focused on Pav and his brace?
The ES article is desperately poor. Why not talk about Pav instead? Or maybe some of the Wigan fouls on Defoe in the first half?
To be fair to the journo, he often writes about Spurs according to this website: http://www.journalisted.com/tom-collomosse - and seems to be pretty even-handed overall. Must have been devoid of inspiration this morning, though.
Tom Collamosse??? More like phakkin Comatose!!!! This gunt must have been asleep most of the game!! Probably a phuqqin gooner anyway, so dont wast a whole article on this phukwit!!
Wasn't it the standard the Levy banned from WHL and the training ground?
Anyway, if the journo has to come up with this instead of a full piece on the game so what?
We all have our days when we we'd much rather do anything than what we're supposed to do. So he cobble's something together in a short space of time and cracks on with enjoying life. Well good luck to him, but forgive me for not wanting to read it when i catch the headline.
'The Media', huh? Worse than the fans, sometimes, well more fickle at least, err, sometimes.
Dude relax! Why are you worried about what a third rate (at best) journo has to say in a rag that has been on the wane for years and is in terminal decline?
'the facere is strong in this one'
that is funny that is. i'm gonna use that for the rest of my life.
Fair point on Modric though Spooky
Tis Grim down South.
Spooky is in need for a Matthew Norman editorial me thinks.
Why worry about the (sub-) Standard? They have trouble giving it away.
COYS
Standard is a joke. Shame, really decent read about 5/6 years ago.
"anyone with a mullet in this day and age can not possibly be good at football"
Tell that to Pav - beginning to look suspiciously mulletesque too. Someone needs to tell these Eastern Europeans it's all about the Stevie G side-parting in 2010!
It occurs to me that it's not a real mullet if it is adorned with the shoe-string headband.
I'm sporting a mullet today, does that make me good or bad at football?
You are the Fred West of football. Shame on you.
the evening standard has all ways been anti-spurs
One of the few benefits of living in yank-world is not having to directly put up with BS of some London's freebie newspapers. Second-hand knowledge about it (thank you spook for that) is as "lethal" as a second-hand smoke. :))
Anyway, it was a great performance of all our boys and deserved win on Wigan’s tobacco field. Bring on Bolton!
Fred West - He was a handful
Contrary to some of the one eyed posts on sites today, you lot should look at the paper ratings for Crouch Defoe and Pav. pav does not come out as a high score - nor does Crouch score poorly. In fact in the Times he comes out better overall than Defoe. As Capello appears to understand its about what else you do for the team. What does Defoe do? i see he only has 2 assists in the whole season. Says it all really. Try watching what his overall contribution is to the team . Crouch is unselfish and so scores less goals so thnat others can. i see that he was instrumental in the first goal on Saturday. defoe's scoring rate is poor without Crouch- which is why Redknapp prefers that combination. It would serve you lot right if he drops Crouch against Bolton and you get knocked out of the cup.
Tricky you have it in one his paper was banned and you are right my son score two gaols all is comrads embrace him and dont embrace Harry humbug who stopped my son from is Vodka bash . Well we are one big family now and Arsoles have the rd faced midjet Spurs have my big handsome son to fire this famous club two a Russion double FA cup and fourth spot your biggest fan Olov Pavlyuchenko
Lets wait and see what the Pav/Defoe axis does before we start proclaiming that Crouch is irreplaceable. So wow the paper ratings say Crouch played better then Pav. And? Why precisely should anyone pay any attention to what is written in the sports pages of the Times? In case you've been living on Uranus for the last 20 years you will have surely realised that the sports press in this country is full of complete garbage. If Harry drops Crouch for Pav I can pretty much guarantee Pav will score and Spurs will win.
Didn't JD bite someone on the pitch once?!
He's hardly the second coming of baby jesus.
Defoe overreacted at times, but this Tom guy is just being an arse. The headlines need to sell I guess, so why not take a stab at one of England's highest scorers of the season.
Dan, stop pissing on my parade.
The ES is owned by a Russian!!
One tackle does not make Defoe dirty. He's just a little foolish in when and how he chooses to unleash his aggression when riled. He's already been sent off this season for stamping on a player. And I'm sure we all remember the biting 'incident' against Mascherano a couple of years ago.
It's not a question of whether he should be allowed a moment of temper, if he should be allowed to blow off, if the player in question deserved it or any of the myriad justifications that have been brought up to shield him.
The crux of the matter is this - how will the ref view his actions? Defoe was monumentally fortunate not to be sent off yesterday. It makes no difference that Caldwell deserved the booting he got. That would have mattered not one jot if Defoe had been red-carded.
Jermain has got to start using his head when he gets frustrated and try and channel his aggression into something constructive for his team. It may well have felt great for him to have given Caldwell a kicking, but that glee would not have compensated for what he would have felt taking his early bath.
I will however say that the ES was very lopsided, but then have we come to expect anything less from them?
the evening standard??? the most middle to upper class paper ever...only cater for 1% of londeners...waste of ink, keep to your little diary pages telling us what lord or lady are upto this weekend and leave the football to the fans
On another note, where are you YIDO YIDO and why haven't you taken on my public bet that I offered to you last week i.e. I bet you £20 that Pav will finish the season with more goals than Crouch. Pav lazy and overhyped? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dan, Elton John reckons that the 'baby j' ate meat. So really we've come full circle and Defoe is the next messiah.
Shame the papers seem to be suggesting that Walnutt is a shoe-in for lennon's position if he doesn't recover in time. Like a player more injured than lennon, who has since misfired upon return is worth taking, more good work from he tabloids there!
Personally, and this might just be me, I'd be on the phone to O'Neil to ask how milners groin/knee/metatarsals are currently.
Right to point it out. ES has been poor for a long time now.. think it stems from The Mail connection and that gooner twunt Morgan.
Cracking win in shite conditions. Warmed the heart after the other results. Great if we can take that fight mentality into the remaining fixtures. liverpool found their fight against us and that's all they have. We have much more. I for one hope we can go on from here.
Side note// Please god jenas stays injured.. he must have the ability to hypnotise managers and fans alike. He's why we loose not the loss of Lennon.
Er.. or was Morgan The Mirror?
whatever our personal thoughts on Defoe the player, it has to be said that he is an obnoxious twat. My cousin works at the Grove and I could tell you a few stories about him that would back this claim up. But I wont. You only need to look at how he generally acts and carries himself on the pitch. He has a chip on his shoulder probably caused by being so small. Shame really
Huh!!! I will never buy the Evening Standard again.
I played sunday leauge with a writer for the ES he was always anti Spurs but then again he was an absolute twat and a west ham fan, he now writes for the daily mail (moving up in the world) and has taken his anti Spurs with him. Gets me how these jurnos would rather sell a papper the see England win the world cup. COYS
Top strikers don't get caught offside as much as defoe does....he scored an identical goal against leeds which was given offside.
He's a good player but he's no Michael Owen.....if in doubt have a shot even if there are 3 defenders in front of you...Defoe plays for himself he'll never change he needs a workhorse like Crouch to do his running
perryman
He's always been a bit thick with timing his runs. Shame he can't quite get to grips with it all.
It does make me laugh that Rooney does exactly the same thing, but when he does it people are always there to defend him "if rooney took the aggression out of his game, he wouldn't be half the player" etc etc.
double standards.
there is a difference between comitted aggression and childish petulance. Now I'm not saying that Rooney doesn't regularly slip into the latter category, but Defoe rarely shows the kind of commitment and aggression that Rooney does so successfully.
Yes Defoe needs a workhorse, however, I think Defoe is aware that that is pretty much all Crouch will ever amount to. Pav, however, is a different beast. I don't think it was co-incidence that Defoe made such a big deal of congratulating Pav. I think the whole Berba/Keane episode hurt Defoe ie he was basically sold because Berbatov despised playing with him, and he knew it. Hehas learnt from that, and if we see him paired with Pav I think Deofe will make a massive effort to make it a proper, 2 way strike partnership with both players playing the ball to each other, to feet, linking up. And not just Defoe doing his goal hanging, head down, perma-shoot, never pass, I think Defoe is a bit pissed off with playing with Crouch and is itching to actually have a real strike partnership with a player of equal skill and goalscoring ability. Defoe never passes to Crouch because Defoe thinks Crouch is shit.
Chrisman , you really think Defoe is capable of such a complicated thought proces ?
I think we sometimes give our players too much credit. When it is clear that we have lowered our expectations of intellect in footballers.
Make's you realise that when a manager says a player has a 'footballing brain' what they mean is that 'he is as think as shit, but will happily follow instructions'. If we lobotomised half the players in the EPL would we really notice the difference?
Teh Trunk vids are prob a little bit too close to the truth, should we ever find out......
I don't necessarily think Defoe is that bright....but he has had a good couple of years to mull it all over and I think somewhere there is at least a vague spark of realisation. It's more self preservation than anything else. Survival instinct. I think the thought of Pav 'doing a Berbatov' (ie paying well, and realising that no good player can form a partnership with Defoe) will worry Jermaine.
Footballing brain does not necessarily correlate to actual intelligence. For example, Rooney clearly has great vision and intelligence on the pitch, but is quite thick. Some are at almost savant level. Defoe, sadly, is just simply thick. I mean, look at Gazza. Thick as shit, but an impulsive, naturally creative footballer. Even the ones who are pretentious and try and act intelligent are actually thick (Hoddle, Gullit).
Really, if the 'general public' had an insight into the day to day lives/goings on of footballers, I think most would be genuinely horrified at level of retardation exhibited by most of them. Lobotomised is about right. People think it's unfair stereotyping but really the truth is faaaar worse. I don't even cosider them real people. Even managers, 50-60 year old men are childish planks. And we wonder why, despite all the money and resources at our disposal, we can't acheive anything, collectively, as a nation. Anyone who doesn't act like your generic retard is automatically regarded as some kind of freakshow by fans, media, other managers etc. Look how long it's taken Roy Hodgson to get any kind of respect.
Chrisman , roy hodgson is indeed a very good example of an intelligent man and his achievements at Fulham deserve massive respect
Dare i add Gary Lineker to the equation ? He seems to be on of the rare breed of savants ...
It does not bother me that most footballers are thick and yet still earn a lot of money , i ve been playing for all my life and have never reached the professional status because of a lack of talent (footballing brain) so i think talent needs to be appreciated , we pay lots of money for intellectual talent so i reckon paying for recreational talents is a bit on the same level. It does bother me if they do not put an effort in their lives , go out drinking and crashing cars, whine like little children when they live the lives of ancient kings and that they go through life acting as infants. Ok you are thick but ffs grow up will ya.
It's like the whole thing about footballers doing nothing in the household because they need to concentrate on their job ... bollocks. We all have to work (at least i hope most of us have jobs), take care of our private lives and some of us practice competitive sports. And we do that without the shitload of money but because of the love of the game and the love of winning.
to cut my post short , to alle pro footballers : Stop whining, beating up women, getting drunk and complaining about pressure ... You have all the luck in the fecking world so enjoy it while it lasts.
footballers dont live in the real world. And the reason they dont change their behavious is because if one of them did, they would be an outcast in the dressing room. Even at youth level, everyone is the same, monosyllabic, witless retard. Anyone with a degree of personality, or desire to become a real man of intelligence, integrity and responsibility will pretty swiftly decide that despite all the riches available, it ain't worth spending the next 15 years in the company of such people.
Chiefy - Please re-visit same thread as you made your bet, scroll down and you will see I was delighted to accept. I'm not ignoring you, I was just trying to figure out what to do with my winnings ;-)