Inside the head of Heurelho da Silva Gomes
Monday, May 9, 2011 at 10:46AM 'Penalty given, no problem I will save it. Come to me ball, I beckon you. Come to me. There we go. Saved. See you later. Job done. Justice. I am a good keeper, I believe in myself. I'm good, I know I am. I saved a penalty. I have no insecurities. I proved it there. In comes the ball again, should I stand my ground or should I attempt to...I wonder if cats dream? And if they did would they dream about eating and sleeping and licking themselves because they hardly do much else in waking life. Oh hold on. What the *** has happened here? It's another penalty. Or is this the penalty from before replayed and if it is why am I in the replay reliving the moment? It makes no sense to me. Has there been a disturbance in the space time continuum? Saved it the first time, I can save it again. I'll dive this way. Okay, then. That was the wrong way. Oh well. There's always next time'.
But I'm only joking. Let's not scapegoat. It's a huddle of hurt where blame needs to be shared by the team and management as one. Although there are pockets of pleasantries (i.e. Modric) that have endeavoured through the lapses of mediocrity. I'm not being overly dramatic here. Don't misunderstand. I'm proud of the way this team has performed over the past couple of season but disheartened that perhaps the reality is we still lack that extra spark and reinforced steel combination. It's not a bad place to be. It's just that the way football evolves from one season to the next, it's easy for a club to lose direction because of what happens at other clubs.
We should have had it wrapped up with ease. The fact we've given it away can't be ignored unless you wish to retain the whimsical comparisons to times when we sat in midtable. Can't be living in the past though, which is how most would counter that.
So, where are we exactly?
We've basically lost a top four place because of the lack of genuine fluidity across our domestic season dropping points like Martin Sheen drops teeth. Beating Blackpool would have got us back into it if anything just to make the last three games exciting, if still quite improbable (based on form). It's no surprise we ballsed it up and ended the dream once and for all. We've been rubbish for weeks.
The result is made worse because of the spirit we displayed this time last season. Euphoria replaced by limp shrugs of despondency. The complete lack of urgency and tempo until AFTER we went 1-0 down and began to play in injury time compounding the lacklustre effort of the full ninety. Not sure why there was such an abyss where desire and belief should have stood proudly.
I guess finishing 4th should not really be deemed a badge of honour anyway. However, finishing in the top four, preferable higher, has to continue to be the clubs ambition. We need to aspire to be the best we can be and if that makes us better than say two of the top four sides, that will be enough to get us into a position to then lay foundations for even bigger challenges. But one step at a time. Levy's prediction about the time share element of the Champions League appears to be coming true. But if he scratched his head hard enough I'm sure he'd agree with the majority that it was there for the THFC brace.
We've underplayed it. What a manager says publicly might not be the same thing he says behind closed doors, but the task of getting back into the CL was hardly a difficult one but yet was treated like one and thus laboured.
So where are we again exactly? On the highway, a few miles from our destination, out of gas. Arguably been running on empty for a while now.
In addition to the definitive disappoint there's also concern for young Bale. You almost understand his reluctance to pick himself up after being fouled in recent games. Goes down to easily, stays down too long. He's only protecting himself, as nobody else appears to be aiding him. Shame on 'he's not that type of player' Charlie Adam who (if you look at the pictures of the tackle or this gif) appears to have snapped Bales ankle in half, but hopefully it looks far worse than it does in image. Nice officiating there too. I guess Adam should have pulled out a semi-automatic rather than waste energy lunging in. Would probably have only got a yellow for firing it at Gareth's legs.
Broken ankle or severe ligament damage at time of writing. Breath of fresh air that, hey Harry? I guess having a go at the opposition isn't deemed too media friendly, might hurt the portfolio. We've always been way too soft in the aftermath of such matters. I'm not saying embrace the some embarrassing traits of a Jose or Fergie, but let's attempt to defend our honour once in a while. Emphasis on protection of all things Tottenham.
Also, nice to see Rose back in the fold. Didn't do too badly. If the season wasn't drawing to a close, we'd probably send him out on loan again. Elsewhere, far too much anonymity. Some controversy over Lennon and the reason(s) why he sat on the bench (poor form or internal disputes?).
In conclusion? Lucky to get the point some might say. I say the draw, on performances, might have been the justified result. The ref was blind and our keeper a loon and our strikers fairly non-existent and our midfield unbalanced but there's no chance of ignoring the fact that this game practically summed up the reason why we're not in the Champions League next season.
No cutting edge, no drive, no focus. Attitude adjustment failure in games we should be bossing. Makes it doubly ironic that we've only lost seven league games this season (so far). The truth festers in the fourteen draws.
We have lost a scandalous amount of points because we've failed to show up and then made hard work of it. We've not improved on last season, we've stagnated. I'm going to have to admit to the fact that it wasn't meant to be and that at some point in the future we'll understand the reasons why. Philosophical musings is all I have left to make this journeys end more comfortable.
A world class forward in January might have made the difference. Personally, thought we still had enough to see ourselves through it. I was wrong. Emphatically wrong. Chairman got it wrong. Manager got it wrong. Some of our players got it wrong.
If you want to be critical and subjective, say if you were a neutral and looked upon Spurs and this season, you might question the fact we have a wealth of talent and we've somehow managed to not find a groove. It's that genuine lack of fluidity again that many have suffered from this season. If you want to be critical you might ask why we went through the motions and failed to take it all by the scruff of the neck. Because out of all the under-achievers, we had the depth to perhaps edge out the competition. Easier said then done and although you might read this article back and think me drowning in negativity - once more, this isn't about pin-pointing scapegoats. Just another gentle nod in the direction of the obvious. It was a collective failure. It's not just up front where we need to improve.
We've not been good enough in key areas in key moments. If you want sustained progression that equates to tangible success you need to hate losing and we have not quite tuned into that frequency yet.
It's still a good thing, a positive thing, to be this club in this position with the squad we have. If you look the past, we are abundantly in better health than we've been for twenty or so years. The problems we have in our workings are ones that if fixed, will propel us upwards once more. The crux is in how chairman and manager go about fixing it. Momentum has not been lost, just misplaced. We need to aim higher and be seen to be aiming higher because the clubs around us will be doing just that.
City are unlikely to waste their opportunity in the CL and will therefore use it as platform to consolidate beyond doubt when alternatively we might have further damaged their project by once more beating them into the top four. That would have allowed us to build on this season without taking a step back. Hope is with the advantage falling into our lap with the single focus of the league whilst they go on their European adventure. Everything is in transition, which is why I will continue to support and believe. It's all I can offer, the rest is out of my hands. Teams around us will get better but so will we.
Onwards, then.
We've learnt a harsh lesson this term. Don't take anything for granted. Wouldn't hurt to be a ruthless yet glorious basterds once in a while too.
Reader Comments (41)
Once the season is over, I plan to deconstruct things with less of the wishy washy rhetoric and more of the bare bone analysis. Something to distract us all from the ITK community.
just proves you cant do champions league on the cheap, levy.
Good stuff Spooky, as always and resonates with Yids all over the shop, I'm sure. I do wonder if 'arry was so even-handed with Adam cos he still wants to sign him. One thing's for sure, if Mr Adam does come to Spurs he'll be meek as a lamb.
Gomes is an accident waiting to happen but if we'd scored more than one goal, which we should be able to do against Blackpool, it wouldn't have mattered.
How Rose got in the team ahead of Lennon and Krancjar is beyond me - more than anything his selection at LB highlighted just what a good player BAE has become. Rose tried had but overall he just lacked quality - same can be said for Kaboul at RB. Clearly Harry didn't want Bale at left back because our main tactic seemed to be lumping it up to his head.
Our form for the last two months has been relegation form - 9 points from 9. If that had been our first nine Harry may have been sacked. That said we've only lost a couple of those so largely unbeaten. You can help but think a great centre forward might have just turned some of those draws into wins.
Really think we could have won the league
Two games continuously a blind referee in the most critical phase of the season can't be accidental.
We've seen that also in previous seasons.
To me it is obvious that in last decade the FA is protecting big spending foreign investors specially in their first steps in order not to get disappointed.
Accordingly, the orders given to the referees were to safeguard, if needed, the participation of MC in next season's CL at any price.
Gomez is an inconsistent player and Spurs should find a proper first keeper.
The reality says that Spurs need to offload 8-12 players and to buy 6-8 new players with the PROPER skills and qualities.
They can do that in one or in two seasons or after they have a bigger stadium.
More important is to set up and announce an adequate plan and to implement it properly and in time.
We needed a new striker in January, but who was there? An overweight Georgie for £35m who has a few months' experience in the EPL, a Urugaian who only wanted to play for Liverpool or a Spaniard who has been crap for 18 months going for £50m.
Thanks, Spooky. You've remained optimistic throughtout the season. Something(s) went wrong from the end of last season. Then everyone could see that, despite the joy of clinching forth, there had been ominous displays against Wolves, Stoke etc. What exactly will be a matter of debate and discussion but the signs were there again for the less-rose-tinted after our displays against Wigan and the Spammers early on in the season. I look forward to the less wishy washy analysis at the end of the season.
dont want top 6
i meant 4
well it has been a massive dissapointment these last few months... If our team managered to score from time to time, then the odd Gomes blunder wouldnt cost us as much.
But that not happened, and Gomes is costing us vital points.
We need to really freshen things up for next season, and get hungry motivated players again.
My clearance starts with:
Jenas... (useless)
R.Keane...(old and useless)
Palacios... (we have Sandro now)
Krankjaer... (unfortunately wants to leave)
Pav... (you just feel he doesn't really want to play for us)
Woodgate and King... (as much as i love them both, its best they retire so we can close the book)
Hutton... (clumsy, slow and useless)
Corluka... (even worse than Hutton)
Bently... (was he ever any good)
im sure theres a few more, for example... what do we do with JD and Crouch??
Unfortunately this weekend also shows up how unimportant it was for chelsea to win with 'more than a little luck' (unless you work for News International's advertsing sales department).
Am now resigned to 6th place after liverpool strong finish to the season. And as the season has ebbed and flowed along this year, the one thing we have never done is put a really strong set of results together at any one time. Too many drawn games.
Maybe all we needed was that spark or bit of luck to win a game, allowing us to go in with confidence to the next one (the chavs game an example of where luck deserted us, and genuinely beleive that had we won that, yesterday would have been more upbeat than apprehensive).
But it's that 1 or 2% difference that we have been found wanting in.
There is one upside to this season that I have been immensly poud of, our fans. Both home and away have shown support, humour, resiliance and good voice that, when I have been able to make the odd game, has raised the hairs on the back of my neck.
As for European away games, turns out it's what Bose in ceiling speakers were mde for!
Anybody for Martin Jol????
He's done little to prove since leaving he has what it takes.
Looking forward, the two kyle's have done well and are part of the long term it would seem. Townsend has done well at the Lions Den and anoter season there he might yet be ready to mix it with the big boys.
It is a shame that our strikers on loan haven't consistently performed (obika's couple of goals aside - worth a cheeky you tube for one special goal from memory).
Besides it could be all be worse, our bi-polar neighbors are hell bent on trying to oust their most successful manager of all times, and those to the east are now wondering what to do with a stadium that holds 60,00 people and corporate facilities for 8,000 of those, when 20,000 and a burger van would be more than adequate.
So much to do this offseason...
The easy bits, get rid of Hutton, Keane, Bentley, Dos Santos, Pav, O'Hara, Kranjcar, Woodgate, Jenas.
The hard bits:
Has King's time come?
Is Gomes good enough?
VdV, how does he fit in our team?
Can we find a world class striker to lead the line [two]?
Can we keep Modric, Bale, VdV?
Do we get rid of Defoe and/or Palacios?
I see the following outfield players as the ones to count on for next season (assuming above necessary exits):
Central Defence: Gallas, Dawson, Kaboul, Bassong
Left back: BAE, Rose
Right back: Corluka, Walker
Central midfield: Huddlestone, Modric, Sandro, Palacios
Attacking Midfield: Bale, Pienaar, Lennon, VdV
Striker: Crouch, Defoe, VdV
Solid, if a bit thin across the back given our injuries this year.
Clearly, the biggest need, without a shadow of a doubt no matter where we finish is a proven world class striker.
Passed that? Assuming we had European games to play?
We could add Scott Parker or another midfielder.
I'd worry about bringing in a keeper to push Gomes. He's kinda fragile as is. I think if you are going to upgrade, just do it full stop, bringing in competition is not going to help matters. Bring a guy in and sell Gomes. But I love the crazy muppet. It'd be like putting my pet dog for sale him just because he sh*ts the rug occasionally (okay often).
As a HUGE fan of Ashley Young, I'd love to believe we could add him but sadly I'm sure his dreams lie elsewhere and the Spurs star has faded ever so slightly. He would cushion the blow if we lost VdV or Bale.
Defensively, clearly a central defender would not go un-used. Dawson, Gallas, Kaboul all missing substantial time this year. Perhaps a beast like that chap who plays for Blackburn Samba. A force in either box for set pieces. Richard Dunne seems ready to leave Villa, a steady veteran hand to call upon? Please no Upton.
Gomes is frustrating in that he's one of those players who is so good at one thing, the others are overlooked despite their shortcomings. Unbelievable agility and reflexes. Piss poor judgement and handling. The clownish way the after-penalty-save corner was dealt with shows he just lost his head and did something utterly stupid. It's not a one-off either.
Reminds me a tiny bit of Huddlestone - would he be near the first team if he wasn't such a sublime passer? The comparison is unfair, though, as his faults are not nearly as bad as Gomes'.
Key transfer window coming up. Lots to get rid of, though you wonder who would be daft enough to splurge anything like the £15m Levy is no doubt expecting to recoup from Bentley's sale. Keane's miserable form at WH is another worry. I personally would keep Crouch as a squad player, maybe JD too and wave Pav goodbye leaving room for two new faces. Buying a world class striker in January? There weren't any available or willing, and buying in January is far tougher than the summer, which begs the question why didn't we have someone installed come August. We might have gone for Dzeko in Jan, and look what a major impact he's had. You can't conjure up a new signing if (i) the transfer fee is daft, (ii) the wages are daft, (iii) player doesn't want to come (iv) club doesn't want to sell and (v) they're not of a high enough quality. I'd rather not buy for the sake of it. Shame we didn't have some pure Viking strength this time round.
This summer will be telling regarding HR's true transfer acumen. Too often he's brought in a player because he's a bargain, rather than whether he's actually needed. Van der Vaart, Pienaar, Krancjar, Adam (nearly) all triffic but cheap to make us a profit when moved on. Apparently Adam is not a summer target now, which proves this point as he is now more expensive than in January. Whether he was needed doesn't seem to come into it.
Lots to pick over this season, but far more complicated than just "Harry Out".
based on form were not really ready for CL football next year........
big changes pre season will take time to bed in
1 goalie whose supposed to be good green going cheap
1 central defender upson going cheap
1 captain that wants to win parker going cheap
1 striker who wants to live in london demba ba going cheap
1 60000 seater stadium going cheap??
were still doing well whatever happens
COYS
Our problems, while not major, is not just in one area. Gomes did not muck up against West Ham, West Brom or Wigan for example - yet all of those games were drawn too. There is this lack of excellence right across the board. Our strikers don't perform regularly. Our midfield, while very good do not contribute enough goals either (how many Modric and Lennon scored this season?). When we do score, our defenders are not up to it (Gomes got the blame but Dawson made a stupid mistake, as did Bassong against Blackpool the last time. We let in 3 against Wolves and 2 against West Brom at home). Our defence often makes poor decisions, or loses concentration at critical times (this is where we need King). Tactics from Harry, especially the vdv problem, has not been great either. I kinda sympathise with Harry to a degree. with the lack of goals, he has to play vdv. If he plays vdv then either has to play Crouch, or he has a big shaping issue since Defoe or Pav don't look to great up front. Last season owed much to the second half where Bale was on fire, King was there for the run-in, and Huddlestone was a critical part of us playing a fluid game. It would be interesting to see our stats when Hudd, Lennon and Bale have all started. And we all know what a difference King makes. These are just little bits that have caught up with us - and it clear that we do need some really top leaders if we want to move forward
Our problems, while not major, is not just in one area. Gomes did not muck up against West Ham, West Brom or Wigan for example - yet all of those games were drawn too. There is this lack of excellence right across the board. Our strikers don't perform regularly. Our midfield, while very good do not contribute enough goals either (how many Modric and Lennon scored this season?). When we do score, our defenders are not up to it (Gomes got the blame but Dawson made a stupid mistake, as did Bassong against Blackpool the last time. We let in 3 against Wolves and 2 against West Brom at home). Our defence often makes poor decisions, or loses concentration at critical times (this is where we need King). Tactics from Harry, especially the vdv problem, has not been great either. I kinda sympathise with Harry to a degree. with the lack of goals, he has to play vdv. If he plays vdv then either has to play Crouch, or he has a big shaping issue since Defoe or Pav don't look to great up front. Last season owed much to the second half where Bale was on fire, King was there for the run-in, and Huddlestone was a critical part of us playing a fluid game. It would be interesting to see our stats when Hudd, Lennon and Bale have all started. And we all know what a difference King makes. These are just little bits that have caught up with us - and it clear that we do need some really top leaders if we want to move forward
You ever get the feeling that if you were walking down a dark alley with Gomes and some fellas pulled a gun on you both, Gomes would disarm the man before anyone knew what was going on. Then after chasing away the bad guys, would inspect the gun and clumsily shoot either you or him in the face accidentally?
As has been pointed out several times, we have 15-18 players of a 6,7, or 8 caliber out of 10. Not quite enough 9s and 10s. We ought to be able to sell plenty of that extra weight, some might call it "depth," and in return gain another top flight player or two. We'll simply have to play with less depth. More 9s and 10s in starting lineup. More 5s and 6s (and youngsters) on the bench rather than out on loan. Bring the two Kyles back, off-load everyone mentioned above, in order to buy one striker with size, pace, and skill that can lead the line all alone with Bale, VDV, and Lennon in behind.
I'm also thinking that with everyone else looking for goalkeepers, we might get priced out of the market. Sure he spilled some goals, but he's also kept us in more than enough games, AC Milan in particular, where he was brilliant at the San Siro (to make up for his previous appearance there?). Looking over the table, we needed more goals to break some of those ties. Our goals for is indicative of a mid-table team (or lower) and has to be remedied.
You ever get the feeling that if you were walking down a dark alley with Gomes and some fellas pulled a gun on you both, Gomes would disarm the man before anyone knew what was going on. Then after chasing away the bad guys, would inspect the gun and clumsily shoot either you or him in the face accidentally?
hahaha
Bale's ruptured his ankle ligaments - or should I say, Charlie Adam has ruptured Gareth Bale's ankle ligaments......
Out for the rest of the season and the club say they are HOPING he'll be back for pre-season. I'd rather he was out until 1st September, ensuring that we keep hold of him for another year.
Regarding your broken down car analogy - Van Der Vaart is the dodgy spark plug. Harry got him from a used car dealer at a knock-down price on the promise that he'd do the job. Only problem is that it was a spark plug for a different make of car and we had to take the engine apart completely to fit him in, resulting in some hefty coughing and spluttering when w should have been cruising along. Also, the dealer failed to mention the miles already under his belt and his inability to perform after a certain amount of miles.
We kept stopping off for Tesco Momentum petrol at the services on the motorway too and when we got back onto the road we realised that half a tank of normal petrol and half a tank of Momentum just don't mix..... In fact the fancy Momentum stuff gets you a few extra miles, but it also takes a lot more out of you.
Gearbox has been stuck in first since halfway through the journey too.
Question is - has the car had a careful driver this season?!?
It's certainly time to give the poor old vehicle a damn good valet, inside and out.......
I'll happily admit that I won't be tuning in tomorrow night or on Sunday afternoon.......
The problem with Gomes (and any other 'keeper) is that their mistakes are glaringly obvious as they are the last line of defence and ideally they don't have much to do throughout the game.
Defoe can miss the target 10 times in a game, assuming he wasn't offside for most of them, but if he scores the misses are largely forgotten.
Gomes saved a penalty and made some other good saves, as he did at the Bridge last week, but that one moment of madness wipes it all out week after week after week at the moment.
So Walkerboy, will you be wanting to play with those nice glory boys in SW6 rather than follow Spurs? Fair weather boys, who'd ave em...
Bye
@Spooky You ever get the feeling that if you were walking down a dark alley with Gomes and some fellas pulled a gun on you both, Gomes would disarm the man before anyone knew what was going on. Then after chasing away the bad guys, would inspect the gun and clumsily shoot either you or him in the face accidentally?
You really are a funny guy.
An adrenaline rush if I ever saw one was the problem yesterday.
All four strikers out and bring three in. Wickham, Osvaldo and Huntelaar. Maybe VDV and Huntelaar could stirke it off straight away while the other 2 bed in.
Osvaldo - has there ever been a man more destined to play for Spurs!!
It's more a case of saving myself from the likely embarassment......
That said, they are the kind of games which we actually put in a performance for 90 mins.
The actual likelihood is that I'll end up with the games playing on Sky Player on the lappy, while the missus watches her crap on the tv. That way I only have to put one of us through it!
The problem is that the season has now petered out, meaning that these games really have very little to offer.
I'd rather we lost 2 of the 3 and ended up in 6th than win 2 out of the 3 and end up with Thursday nights on 5 ahead of a Steven Segal/JCVD film.
Don't worry Walkerboy, seems the majority of members and ST holders are also Glory Hunters as the match went to general sale. Never had that problem with our CL away games midweek.
Not sure which Spurs and City will turn up tomorrow. I have thought for the majority of the season they have looked far more likely to score goals than we do and concede less, so on that basis we will probably win 5-1.
Walkerboy
I don't get it - we're a gnat's cock from getting to Europe & you reckon the season's petered out. One CL season & so many spoilt "fans"; we won't need a bigger stadium after all, will we?
Bye
There's a lot of world class striker talk, but not a lot of names. Who are we talking about, surely not Demba Ba?
By the way I think Defoe and Crouch were world class strikers, not so sure now. We had Bent who scores plenty of goals when playing for anyone but Spurs, though he definitley seems to miss the simple chance and finish the hard one.
I'm think most were sure that Pav was one when we got him and that didn't really work out. I know that Torres is one and he didn't work out at all for Chelsea, yet.
Who are we getting?
Did Blackpool really go general sale?!? I couldn't find a ticket other than through ticket exchange.
Still after tickets for the Birmingham game though - I'm overdue a visit to the Lane.
And as for being a "gnat's cock" from being in Europe - yes we are, but in the competition that no-one wants to be in.
My opinion may change IF we beat City, but for now we're still 4 points off it with games to play against our rivals for that last spot.
An addition to the car metaphor:
We need to drag the reckless (top 4 killing) driver out of the motor and give him a right good going over.
If he's lucky, he'll be able to bullshit a short ride in a bigger motor, full of only idiotic Englishmen, until they too, boot him out the door, but harder.
It only took 5 minutes for that gnat's cock to grow substantially bigger.........
TMWNN - he's got his eye on one that looks like a Rolls Royce but everyone knows handles like a Morris Minor.
Liverpool - were 3 - 0 up against Fulham in....15minutes!!!
I see that many are happy to see the long ball inducing Crouch remain as our striker next season. In that case...what is the point complaining about lack of progress and our top6 finish? Crouch is a four-goal a season striker. With that kind of a striker, we all should be happy to beat relegation.
Harry is at Craven Cottage. Good. I think he means well and is trying his best. Unfortunately, due to his love for the media, Longball Crouch, Defoe, and the smiling benchwarmer Jenas, he might not be the one to take us further. Its a pity though.
BTW, Suarez...was the missing spark that was needed.
WHAT! a player!
We really missed out big time and that missing out may just keep us out of the CL for a number of years. He really is something special and he has galvanised and lifted Liverpool to another level. And boy isn't he easy on the eye? All this while we lump footballs to the tallest striker in the most uninspiring manner hoping for a knockdown.
I wonder how many young football fans will choose Liverpool over Spurs due to this? Its difficult to be a proud Crouch fan on the playground. All the kids just cant stop making jokes and laughing at you.
Suarez! I would give all our four strikers+Jenas to get one of him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tgN0t5oLJM
Suarez does look the business, a dutch friend who supports Ajax was saying at the end of last season he was too good for Spurs and belonged at a team capable of winning the League be it england, spain or italy.
Missed a proper player there.
Crouch, Pav, Keane all have to go if we want to change our style of play and get the best out of Bale, Modric and VDV. Could we play a 4-3-3?
I stick with Wickham and Osvaldo as the two that will come. Huntelaar would be a good addition but without any European football next year getting a "world class" striker is never going to happen and the sooner people realise that the less disappointed they will be come the summer.
Players want to play football, be it thursday or sunday they don't care. A Europa cup campaign has to be better than watching eastenders surely. Just not for our manager and it would seem some of our fans? Crazy isn't it? Sure UEFA have made a mockery of the cups but our own league cup is the same. I enjoyed that 5-1 a few years ago seemed 33000 other people did as well that night, funny how short people's memories are.
Anyone remember Everton flirting with relegation after getting to the CL................just saying........
I think Suarez could easily be the best buy Liverpool have ever made. My god! I cant remember being that impressed by an opposition player since the horror of Thierry Henry. He really was immense against Fulham.
Can Harry Redknapp really put away his bias for useless England Team-B players and allow us to get one of these super players. I beg him. O.k Crouch is also a human being and he deserves someone to love him....we get it Harry! But please, we have a tradition here. That's what makes us special. Tottenham Hotspur. And not...a regular Portsmouth/Southampton/West-Ham/Bournemouth or whatever. We can't afford to accomodate the likes of Crouch anymore. Please man!
Suarez is worth 50 million!
Well Walkerboy
The cock is now a lizard. But I still want us to press citeh relentlessly with whatever 11 players are still walking and will be cheering them on at Anfield on Saturday (against a very good resurgent Liverpool) regardless.
Still think we should support our team and not turn our backs should they have the temerity to finish outside the top 4.
But that's just my opinion.
Cheers
..of course that should have read "Gnat is now a lizard" but it's been a long day - you get the drift.
Cheers
Frank , the discussion about support is one that is as old as the Californian Redwoods , Some say you have to support your team no mather what while others agree on the principle but add a little criticism and then you have the very fickle ones ...
I for one am dissapointed by how the league season turned out , by our strikers , the hoofing ball strategy and the lack of creative transferpolitics. But that does not mean i do not support the team every game i can attend or at home screaming like a madman at my TV/PC.
I want us to finish as high as we can , especially to avoid the embarresment of having to accept that a very very very mediorce Pool is better then us , pointwise. And with a bit of luck Spurs can draw against a Belgian team so i wouldn't be so ridiculously expensive to see a live game.
The quotes about the EL taking away our focus or hurting our top 4 chances are just ridiculous , i loathe Wenger but he said something very true this weekend : Playing pro football is a privilege ...
Let's beat City, please. Just to prove a point.