Worst. Defending. Ever.
Saturday, October 31, 2009 at 2:32PM Embarrassing. Three goals that were all birthed from Tottenham mistakes. If it isn't hard enough defending against their players on any given day, gifting them goals is the type of irony that laughs in your face then slaps your backside as you walk away with your head down, shaking, and asking yourself....why?
I was naive to ever believe that we could get something out of this game with Modric, Lennon and Defoe missing. Although for 42 minutes my original hope looked to be justified. Although the signs were there. Little tenacity and hunger to 'get in their faces'. We were containing them. Frustrating them. But that's not enough and too much of a risk. Which it proved to be the case when RvP beat King to make it one from a cross and then 11 seconds from the kick-off, a comedy of apologetic defending, allowed Sylar to dart through nothingness to make it two. All topped up (in the second half) by Gomes and King mixing it like a shit pub dj who's had too much booze to make it a despairing 3-0.
Arsenal don't have to perform above and beyond to beat us if we're going to pull our panties down and bend over for them. All lubed up, purring.
Fabregas about to rip the head off Tottenham...
Shame on them. Five stages of grief at the ready then.
So where did it go wrong? Apart from the on pitch suicide?
Tactically, although we needed a game plan (they pass the ball quicker, keep it better in possession and carry it around the pitch with intent and purpose) we don't have the outlet of Modric or Lennon, which left us with very little other than to attempt a quick break or a long ball up to Crouch. It was probably enough to keep us in the game until very late on. But the pre-half time collapse saw an end to that little dream. So whatever the strategy was, it wasn't enough. Playing pound-for-pound would have been equally suicidal (because of the missing player), but I'm not going to dwell on that excuse. We had players who could do a job. Or maybe that's where it actually went wrong. We 'thought' we had players who could do a job.
No pace. In mind and feet. No chance.
It wasn't enough to just go there and sit back and live dangerously. No blood and thunder. More like fluffy feathered pillows and a hot cup of coco.
Roll on next weekend. And if the Gods didn't think this was enough, shock horror, we've got United away in the cup.
Wonderful.
Reader Comments (153)
Alan D
You have nailed it. It's not that we lose. It's how we lose
I for one expected defeat yesterday. Three key men down etc. But I also expected that given the way the team has improved that we would walk away from the NLD with our dignity intact. Due to our lack of "bottle, courage and mental strength" I can't honestly say that we did.
Losing the way we did yesterday. The way we lost to Chelsea and the way we lost to Man U (not to mention cunting Stoke) sadly says a lot about us.
But I do believe that we are on to better and greater things. Get those three back, get rid of Pav and stick Keano back on the bench and we're on to happier days.
these spuds r worst fans with worst excuses,let me remind u u say that u missed first team players but arsenal from last 3-4 seasons have been without full fit team season long and we still finish miles ahead of u ,anyways let look at ur main players missing and i bet they will never ever come in arsenal first team as-- who will put modric ahead of fabregas no chance in hell, lennon ahead of arshavin or even walcott or even rosciky or nasri again no chance in hell ,and defoe he might make our bench but he is just no class against rvp or eduardo (who had a bad game and u spuds should b thankful for that0 even vela is more tricky and classy than defoe 9defoe is just hit and hope kind of player) thing is that ur players look good in ur second rate club and team but when jump to real big clubs and team they just get found out that they r just big fish in small pond i.e spurs but just average players in big clubs and best example is that big mouth,shit-talking keane.my english may sound different since i am one of millions gooners here in china and people watch spursonly and only when they r playing arsenal (bcoz of being arsenal involved and not second rate club like spurs)
Now these spud clowns can shut up! Arsenal just put you guys back where u belong...keane must be "killing" himself for his stupid comments..hahahahahahaha!
ARSENAL ROCKS!
SPUDS SUXS!
So basically, gooners only come out of the woodwork when they want to gloat, completely devoid of any discussion. You'd be hard pressed to find any of the miserable cunts on any other given day.
I think they're just relieved we had a bad day and let them win.
Love it how Gooners are concerning themselves with us that they need to come on here and brag about how we've been put back in our place. Losing at home to Stoke was more of a disaster than losing to you lot. We hardly ever get anything away to a top 4 side. What you are failing to grasp is that claiming a top 4 place at the expense of lets say Liverpool isn't exactly impossible. So how exactly are we back in our place? Ignoring the twaddle Redknapp and Keane spout which we hardly take not of anyway?
Once we've got Modric, Woodgate, Lennon and Defoe back...we'll see....
Arsenal fans? Discuss? At least we show our faces when shit happens. They hide until the table, scared shitless about facing any other fan when they come unstuck, which happens more often nowadays than it did 5/6 years ago.
these spuds r so pathetic,one of these idiots say arsenal fans only come out when they want to gloat but these same idiots on this very site complain why arsenal fans bother to comment on this site in big numbers on regular basis.we do bcoz its very easy to pick on our poor and lonely neighbours ,what a shame this spuds will b always in arsenals shadow,i am sure some of these spuds would have developed inferiority complex and mental problems as they and their club being bullied since a generation by arsenal. ha ha ha ha
"my english may sound different since i am one of millions gooners here in china and people watch spursonly and only when they r playing arsenal (bcoz of being arsenal involved and not second rate club like spurs)"
You said it mate
did that post make you feel good? You sure put us in your place didn't you?
What is your point exactly, fuck?
IMO at the moment, Arsenal are a superior team and without our top three players (as much as you belittle them) we didn't really stand much of a chance of winning yesterday.
But you know what?
You aren't half the side you and your fanclub in the footie think you are and you also lack bottle and courage.
Let's see what you can do against Chelsea and Manc this year mate.
Since we're, as you say, "second rate", save your bragging for one of them big boys, cunt.
sorry, meant to say:
"You aren't half the side you and your fanclub in the footie PRESS think you are ..."
Can't wait to see how you get on this year mate
Its almost like being the (what are we?) 5th or 6th most successful club in English history and currently a certain to challenge for 5th/4th is such a bad bad thing. Boo hoo, us poor little yiddos with nothing to look forward too....whatever scummers. The fact your ground had more noise in it yesterday than any other weekly game proves how much you genuinely care about beating us. And that alone speaks VOLUMES.
See you at the Lane. Those who dare...
u will see us against chelsea and manc ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!! disgraceful , spuds better wake up before u do a leeds united as u r going to plunge money in playerss and new stadium without any success and stability,i am sure harry will b not ur manager by next year and keane talked about squad and blah blah blah!!! where was ur squad yesterday bale,hutton ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and anyways players like modric ,lennon or defoe r not good enuf to make into first lineups of top3 may b liverfools but u will think otherwise as they will b worldclass in ur club which has second rate standards as u demonstrated by celebrating the reserve/youth cup or carling cup as a world cup ha ha ha h a ,i am sure most of u were even not born when u beat arsenal last time in premier league ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha ha ha ha ha ha
please take your wankfest elsewhere chav:
http://thechelseablog.org/
http://11reds.com/
...and don't get me started on the goons spelling! "innit! In da house, booshakalakk..." ;)
daniel, i would rather have modric,defoe and lennon than walcott,ed and nasri, cant compare these players,u havent got a clue
Dont you just wish you could hunt down these arsanal fans and stab the fuck out of their shit faces.
In our shadows you will always be
Your hearts are full of pain and jealousy
Sad tottenham, sad tottenham
Will you ever win the Premier League
In our shadows you will always be
Your hearts are full of pain and jealousy
London - why dont arsanal have a firm? Is it because your fan base is rapidly becoming made up of Asians, Africans and little posh cunts from surrey?
A bunch of running pussies you will always be
Yes London, we'll never win the league again. Much like you lot. See, we have something in common after all.
"u r going to plunge money in playerss and new stadium without any success and stability"
Oh what? Poor little Tottenham with no money? Give over mate. We are as rich as anyone. We dont have debts like Arsenal, Liverpool or United. You lot are the ones who always run the risk of massive failure because when it ends and you drop out of the top 4 you'll be fucking broke and the meek will inherit the earth! (Well, England at least).
I love how Arsenal win one match against us and all of a sudden it's "putting us back in out place". Who says that they are going to push on from this and win something? If we do end up finishing above them they are going to look like dickheads. (Not like they 'aint already.) Maybe if they spent 1 minute thinking instead of gloating they will notice that one lose for them and one win for us will take us right back next to them. so come on you spurs and maybe at white hart lane we can make them eat their words.
We'll see what happens come the end of the season... The Woolwich Pikes can boast about their win which was more about our fuck-up than anything they did as long as they like, couldn't give a toss. We are getting better and better no matter how we messed it up yesterday, we only missed 4th a couple of seasons ago by a point and we were on the same points going into the game, there just isn't this huge 'mythical' gap.
I'll say it again, we didn't have our best players and they did and created one chance in the 1st half before we blew it, they didn't impress me at all and if their fans were impressed then it shows that most of them are the prawn sandwich munching, sing when we're winning mob we saw on Sat. I know some lifelong Goons (yeah sorry, not through choice!!) that can't even get a ticket cos of the gentrified club-shop manequins that fill the new library... They know nothing.
They blew it at West Ham, lost to both Manc teams away and have yet to go to to the Chavs, Liverpool etc and all those northern scrappers down the bottom that can't wait to kick em about on a cold night. They rely too much on two players and lack what it takes to win the title, they know that deep down but they still like to think they're still in with a shout every year. As much as i hate to say it, everyone knows it's between the Chavs and Manure.
Wenger is a senile, short sighted old cock who still thinks it was him that won the title and not the players he inherited and made play untill about 40 years old. He still hasn't replaced them and they've won fuck all since as a result...
Tottenham are North London's oldest club with a tradition of playing the game the right way, Arsenal only started passing it when the French bloke turned up. Like everything else about that club these days, the fans are plastic, the stadiums is plastic (and has a shit atmosphere) and the football is imported and not even part of their tradition. Just another reason why i love Spurs.
They are a pile of Nouveau Plastic poo and i love to dislike them so much, it's just the right and natural thing to do!!!
It's not just pointless, it's a mistake to, well, you can hardly call it debate, respond to one-eyed and single brain-celled Arsenal fans. They care little for the game or sport itself, and it is only their primeval and even sad need for meaning that makes them mock Spurs. Call it their security blanket.
It's our team that our focus should be on - the manner of our three most significant defeats are what should most concern us, and in the reality of those defeats, you can legitimately ask questions of our management team in terms of the players selected and the tactics employed.
I don't want to argue the toss with anyone about the merits or otherwise of Jenas, for example. As far as I'm concerned, he comes close to being the midfield equivalent of Chivers, that is, a player who will frustrate the fans rather than inspire them, and long enough time has now passed for him to be considered anything other than a player for a mid-table team.
I can't help but think that Robbie Keane is inwardly devastated by his Liverpool experience. Let's face it, you couldn't think of a much better way to humilate a player, and as worthy as Harry's attempt was to pick up his pieces and put him back together again, it is failing miserably. If Tottenham's management persist in playing Keane and having him as captain, then you just have to question the value of that team in terms of us aiming higher.
"So basically, gooners only come out of the woodwork when they want to gloat, completely devoid of any discussion. You'd be hard pressed to find any of the miserable cunts on any other given day."
guess you didn't read my previous posts then. i also guess you didn't see any of your gloating "we're finishing in the top four instead of arsenal" mates on all of the arsenal forums did you? as for us being miserable cunts, have a read of some of your wonderful spud friends doom-mongering comments on the previous pages of this blog.
@ nycyid "you aint half the team that you and footie press think you are" - the irony of this post is hysterical. YOUR TEAM aint the team you and the footie press think you are you deluded twat.
spurs fans going on about our lack of trophies is funny too. i don't even need to start on this one really do i? 1961 aint it? 2 trophies in the last 10 years, one of them won by a legendary arsenal manager....says it all.
"Once we've got Modric, Woodgate, Lennon and Defoe back...we'll see...." don't you mean "we'll see what excuse we can use next time"??? when the shoe was on the other foot did it stop you releasing a dvd when you beat our RESERVES + cesc (with a sub adebayor) 5-1? did it stop you releasing a dvd of a DRAW (admittedly an amazing one, but still... a fucking dvd of a DRAW?) when we had no toure, eduardo or rosicky? exactly. we don't do dvd's of one off matches, we do COMPILATIONS of defeating spuds.
oh and p.s:
lol @ "why doesn't your club have a firm?" is that all spurs have got to brag about these days?...a fucking firm? haha!
i couldn't care less if you had the hardest firm in football, because hooligans are scum (as i am sure the majority of the genuine spurs fans on this forum will agree). go lick danny dyer's balls for giving you guys some tv time. you aren't REAL FOOTBALL FANS, you just think you are...when in fact all you do is drive your teams name throught the mud.(that isn't aimed at the genuine spurs fans either, just mr "im ard coz im in a firm" twat)
Mr 'lol@spurs' do you use that name because it sums you up? It's what you spend most of your time doing, 'laughing at Spurs fans'?
You know there are are other things in life to do... like getting laid, socialising with other human beings leaving the house sometimes, that kind of thing.
Fuck, your life must be sad.
Actually naming yourself after what you spend your whole life doing is fair enough, and you're obviously unable to spell 'wanker' so it will have to do...
trying to bring my lifestyle into things just because i posted nothing but facts. please come back with a reply made from substance rather than just bile.
the truth hurts don't it hehehe.
if you beat us at shite heart pain i will be the first one to congratulate you.
lol
did you actually read my post, son?
if you did you would realize that I actually do think you are better than us at the moment
so where's the fucking irony, shakespeare?
I did point out a fact that you know is true
because it clearly cuts close to home: that you lot are overrated
that you don't have what it takes to defeat chelsea or united
and just watch
I guarantee you twats will shit yourself
Because you don't have what it takes to finish better than 3rd
Cite history all you want
The fact is in 2009 we are underdogs compared to you
Let's see what happens in 2010, fuck
Its clear Keane played a FIFA game on PS3 and realized Spurs are a better team than Arsenal. Hilarious. Guys beat us on the PS3 and then come up with the DVDs and mugs etc. You will need some money for your new stadium.
@ the knobjocky who slagged of firms - what you dont realise cunt is that if you slag of someone's wife or kids you can expect a severe beating, why should football clubs be any different? You all come on here cocky as fuck giving it the big un' yet you hide on match day - that's how firms generally started, a hatred between clubs yet you hate us but won't fight - fucking pussies get a giant escort out of WHL every year. Onto football its clear that really your just frustrated little cunts - still coming to terms with your sick past, trying desperately to forget about it - is that why you hate us, because deep down you know we belong and you dont. Every gooner goes through it (iv seen it myself) when they find out there really dial square from woolich, a club that has had countless names and homes - there faces go white, everything they loved there arsenal for undermined. Then there's stage two 'oh but iv got the tatoo now and my st'. Then there's stage three when you embrace that sick past. But all the while it niggles you, its in the back of your mind and you can't stand it. You can beat us as many times as you like and you can win 300 leagues, will still be here cos we're Tottenham Hotspur and you and me both know your dial square will always be scum.
these spuds r such big bunnies ,they think they have larger fanbase than arsenal in london ha ha ha ha only a delusional spud can say that,even west ham and chelsea r catching u in terms of fanbase (i wonder how would u fill that emirates copycat stadium of urs) everyone knows arsenal have the biggest fanbase in london by far and third in uk after livs and manc,and talking about fanbase abroad u call arsenal fanbase plastic bcoz u r jealous and dont have same fame and name.what tradition u talk about u really think u r a big club big clubs dont go on without winning title more than half a century when was last time u were even contenders ,i am sure most of ur dads were not born when that happened last time, when did spurs last finish above arsenal or when did u beat us in a real match(other then playstation and mickey/youth cup) ,u also talk about the way football u play ha ha ha i believe that on saturday ur way of playing was none different than stoke just lumping long balls to crouch bcoz player u have r second rate ( where the fuck was ur squad ha ha ha ha),now the point is it doesnt matter u spud shout spurs were r and will b a much smaller club in comparison to arsenal and will live forever in our shadow ha ha ha ha ha ha ( i laugh but i mean it ) ha ha ha ha ha and even 1/4 th of season has not gone and alreaduy spuds have started talkin about seeing us in next season ha ha ha ha ha ha
Spot on daggers regarding there past - it must be seriously straining trying to keep that in the back of their minds - knowing what they really are. It's a shame we didnt steel half of europes best young talents at the ages of 15,16. Thats what there current and future squad is made up of - having said that, that model fits in with there mentality - win at all costs - sickening football club.
ha ha ha ha ha dumbfuck
when I say see you in 2010 I mean april
it will be a different story then twat
Some of the comments on this blog are so mindnumbingly stupid - especially those from interloping scum fans -still what can be expected when your team hasn't won anything for years and won't win anything again this year?
Ultimately we only lost 3 points on Saturday so a top 4 finish is still very possible.Just need to egt the attitude right.
"@ the knobjocky who slagged of firms - what you dont realise cunt is that if you slag of someone's wife or kids you can expect a severe beating, why should football clubs be any different?"
you obviously are a total moron if you put slagging off spurs in the same league as slagging off your wife and kids aren't you?! humanity can't save you, you are forever a brain dead thug with no real purpose in life.
"so where's the fucking irony, shakespeare?"
i already told you where it is. obviously you still couldn't notice it, so i'll elaborate:
you mentioned how our fans and the press make us out to be better than we are. in reality its that same press who give spurs that big build up before the season starts. the've done it every year since you finished fifth due to that dodgy lasagne. the more foolish spurs fans start falling for it hook, line and sinker.....thinking they are better than they really are....hence the IRONY is right there.
"Some of the comments on this blog are so mindnumbingly stupid - especially those from interloping scum fans -still what can be expected when your team hasn't won anything for years and won't win anything again this year?"
were you alive in 1961?
What are you talking about mate? Most spurs fans are well aware that 6th is the aim this year and we're also aware that wont be easy with Villa likely to push us all the way.
Nice how you answer each point but dont answer how you stole all your players at 15, 16.
And what about my other point? - did your face go white when you found out you were really dial square from woolich?? Or are you still trying to suppress those feelings - mug you are, keep lying to yourself goon.
btw you dont understand firms so i wont start on that one - you keep hiding mate.
Were you alive in 1913????
"It's a shame we didnt steel half of europes best young talents at the ages of 15,16. Thats what there current and future squad is made up of - having said that, that model fits in with there mentality - win at all costs - sickening football club"
another hysterical post. the only reason you think that spurs didn't do the same thing is because the kids that spurs go after turned out to be TOTALLY SHIT. you employed frank arnesen to bring in loads of youth players. he bought in about twenty that including edison silva and that swiss left back who you loaned out to wigan. the only one that is any good has hardly kicked a football for your club (adel taarabat). when arnesen realised you were a small club, he left for chelsea. so of course you decided to employ someone linked to arsenal....that turned out well too didn't it!
anyways my job is done here.....have fun thinking 2010 is going to be your year tiny totts!
lol@spurs your a deluded gimp
btw i'm not surprised how you refuse to answer questions on your blackened history - your scum and you know you are...
lol @ all this dial square and woolwich arsenal stuff. the only reason that matters to spurs fans is because you can't compete with us on any other level. so your only argument is "we were here first". well done mate! you don't sound childish at all!
the reason you support spurs is either:
a: because your parents supported spurs and you were brought up on spurs
b: when you were a kid you watched a game at whl or on match of the day and decided you liked spurs
are you trying to suggest you consulted some football history book when you decided on being a spurs fan?
why should i give a shit about 100 years ago when i decided to support the football team i like...aged 7 years old? i don't care about it now. deep down it doesn't matter to you either, other than for bragging rights. it's the only bragging right you totts have left, even chelsea are a bigger club than you these days. go join the clown who think spurs are as important as his wife and kids.
lol@spurs ... last time i looked Chelsea were bigger than you lot ... must be really fulfilling to see that wonderful football your "kids" dish out while not winning a single price
There's notting to brag about mate , yeah you are still bigger than us (and yeah in a way that hurts) and yeah you can play CL but does that bring you any closer to the CL or PL title ?
We aim for top 6 so we are still doing a fairly good job considering where we come from
You always aim for the top spot and well i guess you can finish this one yourself ...
Are they making fun of you on the Manure and Chelsea forums that you have to come and brag over here ?
Chelsea. With all their history. Yep. Bigger than Spurs.
You twat.
chelsea have been more successful in recent years, yes. bigger club. no.
that would be like me saying foolishly that arsenal are a bigger club than liverpool because we've won the league four times since them...when we clearly aren't and i'm not afraid to admit that.
chelsea are a bigger club than spurs at the present time. not much bigger, but bigger nonetheless. the fact they play year in year out in the champions league confirms this.
"There's notting to brag about mate , yeah you are still bigger than us (and yeah in a way that hurts) and yeah you can play CL but does that bring you any closer to the CL or PL title "
closer than who? if you mean spurs....obviously it brings us closer to you to winning it (CL). we've been in the competition 12 years in a row. the only other teams to have done that are man united and real madrid.
you aim for the top 6? i'm not sure you've been listening to your manager recently there matey. even after the defeat he's still talking about top 4. funny how you spurs change your goals after a defeat.
i've come to brag over here because of having to listen to your irish twat of a striker go on about arsenal having a "weaker squad and bench" than spurs. i've come on here because of all the spurs fans who come out of the woodwork to bait arsenal fans about debts and taking our spot.
anyways i am not replying anymore....cheerio tottscum
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Dont post links on are site to gay porn websites please.
lol@spurs
Your basis for your argument and why you've come to gloat is weak. If you don't care about us why care about what Robbie 'I joined my dream club Liverpool' Keane has to say? You think Spurs fans don't cringe listening to that crap? He does it every poxy season. What you are failing to grasp is that the Top 4 was an impossible mission for anyone outside of it. It's not that Spurs fail and are therefore shit for spending so much money and not quite getting there but its because its so FUCKING DIFFICULT for a side to do it.
Apart from Everton, nobody has since the monopoly was founded. We almost did. And last year, if it wasn't for Villas lack of depth, they could have done the same.
Yes, you have great players and you have a 12 year old foundation that allows you to remain consistent and able to challenge. Good for you. The clubs below get through managers and players because that is the sorry state we live in. Our best player leave after 2/3 years because its the only way to get CL. All we can do is push on.
I'd be worried if Harry started saying '7th is what we should aim for'. We have to aim for 4th. I didn't agree with that philosophy before but it makes sense to aim high. I've already explained and we already know that only 2 clubs have the depth and class to win the league (guess who) and two are outside chances based on whether the prior two fuck up. And there's a trend that is seeing one of those outside two falter each season. Taking turns. Dont rest on your laurels mate. And concern yourself more with the stagnation of your side (how many years has it been now since you've played the kids? you know, the kids that never age and then they do, we never see the again).
It would also be nice if people would debate and discuss rather than name call, but then again, this is the Internet where its easy to gloat and post irreverent shite because most of the time the person gloating doesn't actually understand enough about the game to talk it through.
As for Spurs fans coming out of the woodwork, please mate. We wear our hearts on our sleeves. Which is why so many of us mug ourselves off so often. Because we put ourselves out there, win lose or draw.
You lot on the other hand, for a set of fans that are blessed with the football Wenger has crafted for you, you remain the most soulless of all. Never quite embracing what you have, too bothered about what others might think. Maybe its the legacy of the Pre-Wenger years when you lot were happy (for 100 + years) see boring bland defensive football grind out results. You old enough to remember those days? You were successful then also, and your fans couldn't care less about anything other than the result. Even with the past 12 years, re-inventing your precious club, you lot are the ones that hide the moment you feel your egos are at damage-risk. And then reappear 'from the wood work' to gloat. But ho hum. We agree to disagree right?
;) < - safety wink
Additional: Spurs and Arsenal have history. Definitive history that you can chronicle all the way back to the early years of football.
Chelsea have only been around for 5 years.
i love there response on there blackened past. Definitely just brushing it under the carpet - no one expects you to consult a history book at 7. But at 17 or whatever when you find out you should unite against that club and rip em down not slowly try and justify them and your support.